A third of all "Rape" victims had been drinking

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
*Sigh*

You're upset, we get it.

So, let me get this straight. Mindship says something completely countering what you claim, yet somehow in the same post, manages to state what you "originally" claimed. Only for you to self-counter and say that your opinion isn't anything to go by...because it's just your opinion. You haven't thought this through have you, sunshine?

I suggest you do an essay plan before each post. I really believe you are delirious.

-AC

By the way: All assumptions at me made this time were all childish and false again.

-This post was made by.. overlord. 😐

This thread is still running? 🙄

Overlord, quit while you're behind. You're just putting yourself in a dangerous situation, wearing nothing but a neon sign saying 'Rape Me'. Ergo, you've been seriously raped.

I know there is a thing in the UK called "date rape", where a man puts a drug in a girl's drink, (spiking it) but that's another reason how rapists act so manipulative and try and fool the girl.

Also anyone in the UK watch Hollyoaks, the last special show where they're after the rapist?

If the girl isn't careful and places herself in a position where someone could spike her drink, is it partly her fault? I know there are many cases where a girl leaves her drink unattended, so it's easy to spike it.

Originally posted by Syren
If the girl isn't careful and places herself in a position where someone could spike her drink, is it partly her fault? I know there are many cases where a girl leaves her drink unattended, so it's easy to spike it.

✅ Unfortunately. I never leave my drinks unattended when I'm out some place new. Well, even in clubs I know well... but that's normal behaviour for me. I know if I were to be careless then anything could happen. As long as we keep in mind what might happen there shouldn't be a problem. But I can imagine that if I did have my drink spiked and then someone took advantage of me, I'd hate to be blamed even a little bit 😬

...but hating it aside, you do accept that it is your own carelessness, right?

-AC

Of course I do. I've stated that a few times 😉

Combined with the fact that many men seem to think it their right to take advantage of a vulnerable female.

No need for that last part, we're aware. It's about responsibility, which you accept. So that's that then.

-AC

Syren, not all men are scum. There are some guys that will treat you right.

I wasn't having a dig at anyone in particular. I just think that, although I agree wholeheartedly that women who are raped whilst out drinking are extremely careless and irresponsible, people are forgetting that it's the men who are taking advantage.

You got your point across. You're right that these women are careless and at fault, but if it's about responsibility then I think the majority lies with the male. Or the 'predator', whatever sex {please don't think I'm saying all men are evil, I could have used 'X' and 'Y' instead of 'male' and 'female'}.

If you want to get a good man, you gotta get yourself a catholic.

Originally posted by Syren
I just think that, although I agree wholeheartedly that women who are raped whilst out drinking are extremely careless and irresponsible, people are forgetting that it's the men who are taking advantage.

People aren't forgetting it though. When we can all acknowledge this the thread may just progress.

Ok, am I appearing a little too defensive? Unintentional 😄

Originally posted by Syren
Ok, am I appearing a little too defensive? Unintentional 😄

I think it's almost a reflex to return to that point; lots of people seem to do it.

Despite the fact that no-one actually thinks that.

Originally posted by Ciára-foxichik
[b]If you want to get a good man, you gotta get yourself a catholic. [/B]

Anyway I agree with Syren, women should be careful and responsible but it's the 'predator' the one that takes advantage.

Now everyone please let the thread died, it's getting boring.

VVD, you lost me... 😮

In Brazil, I heard that they castrate people who rape people.

Originally posted by Syren
VVD, you lost me... 😮

There is a widely-held view- almost to the point of it being an unproven fact- that rape is entirely the man's fault, and you cannot blame a woman for it.

While this is true in theory, there is still something to be said for women taking responsibility (as you have acknowledged).

However, this is often seen- perhaps subconsciously- as a partial paradox by a lot of people, and therefore they feel the need to reassert the point that 'It's the man's fault', when, as we have seen, no-one is disputing this.

Exactly.

By admitting that you have some responsibility you don't immediately need to follow it up with "It's the guy's fault." We know.

-AC