I don't even need to do anything anymore. You post and then start self-destroying your own points.
To add to that, it's clear to the intelligent posters here that you have a ridiculous point of view, a dangerous point of view and no ability to even put them across correctly. You are the one continually ignoring points.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI'd rather talk to VVD then if you are finally done with attacking me and blowing up my statements. Because you have blown it up from the start for an unapperant reason and I have defended against insults.
I don't even need to do anything anymore. You post and then start self-destroying your own points.To add to that, it's clear to the intelligent posters here that you have a ridiculous point of view, a dangerous point of view and no ability to even put them across correctly. You are the one continually ignoring points.
-AC
For others again who might have gotten a distorted view thanks to the pointless assumptions. My opinion was and still is that we should keep our opinion to our own and not blame victims at all because of the countless rapes that don't get reported.
Originally posted by overlord
I'd rather talk to VVD then if you are finally done with attacking me and blowing up my statements. Because you have blown it up from the start for an unapperant reason and I have defended against insults.
It's not that I liked to start a debate about nothing.For others again who might have gotten a distorted view thanks to the pointless assumptions. My opinion was and still is that we should keep our opinion to our own and not blame victims at all because of the countless rapes that don't get reported.
You are entitled to you're point of view and we are entitled to disagree with it.
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You know damn well that you have gone too far in your little pointless discussion. You have immediately attacked me personally from the moment you saw my message and now it seems as though I'm the bad guy or the idiot? Don't make me laugh.
And your claims of proving me wrong being an excuse to be agitated is flawed.
You have been proven wrong though. Not just by me.
Your point of view has been proven many times over to be illogical and dangerous. I've used facts to back up what I say and all you retort with is "You're in a rage" or something silly like that. VVD and I are saying the same thing, like most people. You just dislike how I say it.
Infact, you twisted VVD's words when I first came into this thread.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI dislike how you say it because you have kept on calling me a moron and other dumb stuff indicating that you were mad. It reduced your reliability and you are very poor at convincing anybody or discussing like that.
You have been proven wrong though. Not just by me.Your point of view has been proven many times over to be illogical and dangerous. I've used facts to back up what I say and all you retort with is "You're in a rage" or something silly like that. VVD and I are saying the same thing, like most people. You just dislike how I say it.
Infact, you twisted VVD's words when I first came into this thread.
-AC
And if you keep claiming that it has been proven then indicate what I said that was so flawed because you don't convince me when you say that I have failed to get your magical explanation.
Or just grap my basic meaning of my original point and prove that you know what you are talking about.
Originally posted by soleran30Go read how it began. It seems as though the roles have twisted but I have done nothing inappropriately.
Overlord you are taking this a little beyond the rape subject calm down give it a day🙂 Trust me..................
Just because I said that we shouldn't put any blame on them doesn't mean that I invite an disturbing discussion with constant bashing me.
If you act like an idiot, prepare to be called one. I haven't called you anything that you haven't set yourself up for.
I haven't sat here making post after post being personally insulting. I've said before and I'll say again, I have proven your points wrong. As have many others. If you don't like that, cool. It doesn't make it any more untrue.
-AC
The policy of "don't blame the victim--at all" is a reaction against the time a victim was blamed almost completely. This was the conventional "wisdom" prior to the 1960s, when our society was still very patriarchal, very sexually repressive. A woman who was raped "deserved" it because of her "inappropriate" manner or dress.
Then the 60s came along and some much-needed change occurred. Rape was recognized for what it is: a crime of violence using sex as the weapon. Responsibility for the act rested--rightly so--with the rapist.
However, owing to the nature of pendulums, the shift in attitude swung too far (IMO) in the other direction, where rape victims were in no way held responsible for anything having to do with being attacked.
Considering that a rape victim feels ashamed and disempowered in the worst possible way, this policy shift has helped many victims to come forward. It is still a tough deal because many in our society still hold a pre-1960s attitude toward victims.
But there seems to have been an unfortunate "side effect" to the victim-goes-scott-free-no-matter-what approach. In combination with our now sexually obsessive, in-your-face society, many women (deliberately or otherwise) leave common-sense at home when they go out.
As I said in a prior post: this is the real world. Use your head. Please.
Originally posted by Mindship
The policy of "don't blame the victim--at all" is a reaction against the time a victim was blamed almost completely. This was the conventional "wisdom" prior to the 1960s, when our society was still very patriarchal, very sexually repressive. A woman who was raped "deserved" it because of her "inappropriate" manner or dress.Then the 60s came along and some much-needed change occurred. Rape was recognized for what it is: a crime of violence using sex as the weapon. Responsibility for the act rested--rightly so--with the rapist.
However, owing to the nature of pendulums, the shift in attitude swung too far (IMO) in the other direction, where rape victims were in no way held responsible for anything having to do with being attacked.
Considering that a rape victim feels ashamed and disempowered in the worst possible way, this policy shift has helped many victims to come forward. It is still a tough deal because many in our society still hold a pre-1960s attitude toward victims.
But there seems to have been an unfortunate "side effect" to the victim-goes-scott-free-no-matter-what approach. In combination with our now sexually obsessive, in-your-face society, many women (deliberately or otherwise) leave common-sense at home when they go out.
As I said in a prior post: this is the real world. Use your head. Please.
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I think that was an accurate and good quote Mindship found, it elaborates perfectly about what I originally tried to say.
Although I don't agree with teenagers recieving a partial blame from the general opinion for the cause of society wich resulted in them acting stupid. This of course is my opinion and since I have no influence to the world, I shouldn't be viewed as a threat wich causes things to get even worse.
I'm just not so expectant of people who still aren't fully matured yet although the goverment certainly is.
And as for you, AC. Don't make an excuse for you being forced to call me stuff because I act stupid in your assumptions. The Forum rules serve their purpose and everything you say is absolutely irrelevant. I'm sorry.. But you just plain suck at debating apperantly.. 😄
*Sigh*
You're upset, we get it.
So, let me get this straight. Mindship says something completely countering what you claim, yet somehow in the same post, manages to state what you "originally" claimed. Only for you to self-counter and say that your opinion isn't anything to go by...because it's just your opinion. You haven't thought this through have you, sunshine?
I suggest you do an essay plan before each post. I really believe you are delirious.
-AC