A third of all "Rape" victims had been drinking

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A third of all "Rape" victims had been drinking

A third of all women who make rape allegations have been drinking, reveals a new police report published today.

The Scotland Yard dossier illustrates the difficulties of recording and prosecuting rape allegations with 13 per cent of victims who contact police 'unsure' if they have been raped or not.

The report looks at 677 allegations of rape reported in London in April and May this year. Of those, 511 were recorded as crimes with 166 recorded as 'not crime' or 'no crime.' This was because of factors such as insufficient evidence to classify the allegation as rape.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Brian Paddick said that while the report had positives points - such as the high number of reported cases - work still needs to be done to protect and support vulnerable victims.

Mr Paddick said: "We believe that there is need for a major rethink in some cases about how we investigate and prosecute these offences.

"We are determined to protect those vulnerable victims and we are looking to introduce solutions for those most difficult of cases.

"There are positive factors in that we are getting more people come forward who want us to help them clear up their own confusion over whether sexual intercourse or rape has taken place."

Mr Paddick said although it is difficult to charge and prosecute on alcohol-related allegations, the Met were looking at alternative means of pursuing cases, especially when the victim can't remember what has happened.

He said: "We need to look at ways, other than putting vulnerable victims in a situation where they have to appear in front of an adverserial prosecution or courtroom environment.

"We do get cases where someone can't remember what has happened to them, in cases like this we need to look at things like interviewing the alleged offender in such a way that they need to come up with a satisfactory explanation as to how consent was given. We get cases where sexual intercourse has taken place, but there is an issue over consent.

"We can also look at getting forensic evidence as soon as possible which can back up an allegation of rape."

Mr Paddick also drew attention to recent advertising campaigns from the Met Police and the Greater London Authority encouraging women not to get into illegal minicabs which he said had helped reduce attacks by illegal minicab drivers.

Raising awareness about the dangers of alcohol could help reduce related rape allegations.

Today's report was commissioned by the Metropolitan Police to thoroughly examine the way rape cases are investigated. The research also recommended that classifying a rape allegation as 'no crime' or 'not crime'
should be solely left to one designated body under Operation Sapphire, rather than each Police borough deciding for themselves

Re: A third of all "Rape" victims had been drinking

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
A third of all women who make rape allegations have been drinking, reveals a new police report published today.

Wow, that's alot of Hennessey

Backfire made a thread somewhat like this didn't he

I always feel a bit horny when I am drunk 🙂

I wonder what percentage of the rapists had been drinking?

Originally posted by amity75
I wonder what percentage of the rapists had been drinking?

Somehow I believe that is harder to find out.

Re: A third of all "Rape" victims had been drinking

No kidding.. They get abused when they are vulnerable. Duh..

Girl gets drunk

Girl has sex

Girl regrets it and gets pregnent

Girl goes to the police and cries rape to save face in front of her family..because she is a ****.

Originally posted by KidRock
Girl gets drunk

Girl has sex

Girl regrets it and gets pregnent

Girl goes to the police and cries rape to save face in front of her family..because she is a ****.

Some truth in this their is.

irrelevant of how you feel about him, Kidrock is right sometimes. this is one of those times, i agree.

Originally posted by KidRock
Girl gets drunk

Girl has sex

Girl regrets it and gets pregnent

Girl goes to the police and cries rape to save face in front of her family..because she is a ****.

But how often do you think that happens?

Originally posted by K.Diddy
I always feel a bit horny when I am drunk 🙂
😂 😂 Really?

Originally posted by Bardock42
But how often do you think that happens?

More than we would like to admit 🙁

Originally posted by KidRock
Girl gets drunk

Girl has sex

Girl regrets it and gets pregnent

Girl goes to the police and cries rape to save face in front of her family..because she is a ****.

Yep. As soon as a girl does this I believe she is fair game to actually be raped, so she can see what horror's she's trivializing by doing this cuntish bullshit.

Originally posted by BackFire
Yep. As soon as a girl does this I believe she is fair game to actually be raped, so she can see what horror's she's trivializing by doing this cuntish bullshit.

I agree with you.

This reminds me of the central park jogger case, or the case of the woman gang-raped in a bar which was made into a movie with jodie foster.

1) No matter what!!! the final responsibility for the actions of a rapist rests With The Rapist!!! Regardless of the temptation, he is Still Making a Choice!!!

However........

2) The central park jogger did contribute to her situation by exercising lousy judgment; the woman who was gang-raped in the bar also (IMO) failed to exercise common sense. Did this mean either woman "deserved" to be attacked? Definitely not. But neither would they have been attacked Had They Used Their Heads.

For the last 30 years or more, there has been an overwhelming emphasis on "I have the right to such-n-such..." without equal emphasis on personal responsibility. If a man rapes, he is making a choice, He is responsible for his actions. But if a woman is gonna dress provocatively, hang around with a bunch of guys, and everyone's drinking, there may well be a price to pay for her own lack of common sense and personal responsibility. Sorry, you can't do whatever the hell you want simply because "I have the right...!"

This is the real world. Use your head.

Originally posted by Mindship
But if a woman is gonna dress provocatively, hang around with a bunch of guys, and everyone's drinking, there may well be a price to pay for her own lack of common sense and personal responsibility. Sorry, you can't do whatever the hell you want simply because "I have the right...!"

Precisely. For that reason, fault can partially lie with the person attacked. That's not to say a person cannot dress how they want to dress, but if you will dress provocatively in dangerous situations you're tempting fate.

That's why I always have a videocamera and a written consent form at the ready while I'm on the pull.

I believe in some places you can't give consent if you're intoxicated or under the influence of drugs...

Still, it's a sad state of the world where "dressing provocatively" invites rape, or more accurately "tempts fate." Isn't that one of the reasons Muslims give for wanting their women to wear head to toe burkas, so mens lust doesn't get inflamed?

Though it's quite a bad thing when a vital part of the law is clogged with false accusations, as it disrupts the legal process, and reduces the effectiveness of dealing with real rapists, and helping real victims. Because due to the serious nature of rape, every accusations has to be taken seriously.

And I must admit, I didn't think it was all that hard to decide if one has been raped or not - if a person says no, and the other person goes ahead then it's rape, is it not? (Even regardless of how a person is dressed, or how "heavy" things had been going, choice, choice to say no, exists regardless.) Or if a person is taken advantage of while in an unconscious or vastly reduced mental state, that is also considered rape I thought. There doesn't seem to be a great deal of complexity in the definition of rape when relating to being forced into a sexual act against ones will.

Of course a lot of trouble seems to come with "date rape" where it's often one persons word against anothers, alchohol is often involved, girls and guys might do things they aren't proud of and make all sorts of claims, or they might be telling the truth. So hard to know.