Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceHow 'bout Ock has 4 tentacles & Bats @ the absolute luckiest would only have time to get one of them & before he even stopped spraying it, he'd be ripped apart by the other tentacles. He's now dead or dying and can't carry out the rest of his plan because you need limbs to use cutting lasers and perform somersaults
How bout Bats webs Dr.Ock's tentacles in this:Then, he takes out his cutting laser and uses right inbetween Dr.Ock's eyes. OR, Batman goes behind Dr.Ock and literally rips the adamantium out of Doc's skin, like so:
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceNo he's not. Now if he had some super speed to go with that smarts of his, we might have a fight here. What we do have is a slaughter and dismemberment of a much-loved hero.
Either way, Batman is too smart to get hit by one of the tentacles early on.
Originally posted by brainchild81
How 'bout Ock has 4 tentacles & Bats @ the absolute luckiest would only have time to get one of them & before he even stopped spraying it, he'd be ripped apart by the other tentacles. He's now dead or dying and can't carry out the rest of his plan because you need limbs to use cutting lasers and perform somersaults
No he's not. Now if he had some super speed to go with that smarts of his, we might have a fight here. What we do have is a slaughter and dismemberment of a much-loved hero.
This guy just one-upped Rhino. Stop raising Dr.Ock on a pedestial like Batman's no match, Octavius gets punk'd from Spidey to Punisher.
What does that scan have anything to do with this match?
Batman is no Spider-man so don't compare the two cause they are in a totally different ball game physically. And for him to lose to punisher, i believe can simply be him using guns. W/o pis, it is improbable Dr. Octopus evading such things even with his arms. Too bad Batman doesn't have anything like that. Batarangs are slow compared to bullets.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
What does that scan have anything to do with this match?Batman is no Spider-man so don't compare the two cause they are in a totally different ball game physically. And for him to lose to punisher, i believe can simply be him using guns. W/o pis, it is improbable Dr. Octopus evading such things even with his arms. Too bad Batman doesn't have anything like that. Batarangs are slow compared to bullets.
You realize he has explosives and junk too right? Even if Doc Ock tried to bat away an explosive, it would explode right on contact.
I know and what makes you think it's more probable for him to throw it first than him just simply getting wacked by a tentacle. You do know that going by his latest appearance that he increased the overall output of his tentacles to be 10x as powerful right? before it was only 3, and now each of it is capable of lifting 30 tons for each arm. It has killed several policemen with just one blow.
And also basing on your statement, it is more probable for it to explode within batman's vicinity rather than near dr. octopus.
i'm not saying you didn't but i admit i got that impression. It's just that Doc Ock has way too many advantages here. That's not to say of course that batman couldn't get a few decent wins if they tangle specially if he managed to dodge them and get upclose, but it's really improbable because it was fast enough to catch people like spider-man and strong enough to kill almost any street leveller with one swing.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceThat really doesn't prove anything for Batman though does it? Spidey has the strength to hold the arms for a bit & the speed necessary to avoid them enough. Frank has guns. Bats has neither. The problem is that Batman's been raised on a pedestal so high that it's hard for many of his fans to see him losing to anyone. You'll often see "Batman will find a way" posts here. I don't blame the fans totally though, DC's @ fault for using so much PIS in his books.This guy just one-upped Rhino. Stop raising Dr.Ock on a pedestial like Batman's no match, Octavius gets punk'd from Spidey to Punisher.
Originally posted by brainchild81
That really doesn't prove anything for Batman though does it? Spidey has the strength to hold the arms for a bit & the speed necessary to avoid them enough. Frank has guns. Bats has neither. The problem is that Batman's been raised on a pedestal so high that it's hard for many of his fans to see him losing to anyone. You'll often see "Batman will find a way" posts here. I don't blame the fans totally though, DC's @ fault for using so much PIS in his books.
In the comic book world, super strength constitutes victory half the time- the other half is intelligence. Also, you assume that Spiderman is much faster than Batman when I think their speeds are closer than you think. BOTH Spiderman and Batman dodge bullets and run around their panels like dopple gangers. I wager that Batman's speed is at least comparable to Spiderman. Batman can avoid Doc's arms just as good as Spidey. Also, Just because Punisher has guns doesn't mean he would do better than Batman. Explain why Punisher has such a hard time with BULLSEYE. If Spidey can get close enough to punch out Ock with one freakin punch, don't you think Batman would be intelligent enough to find a way to beat Octavious? Batman- the guy that can predict where Impulse lands? COMON!
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
In the comic book world, super strength constitutes victory half the time- the other half is intelligence. Also, you assume that Spiderman is much faster than Batman when I think their speeds are closer than you think. BOTH Spiderman and Batman dodge bullets and run around their panels like dopple gangers. I wager that Batman's speed is at least comparable to Spiderman. Batman can avoid Doc's arms just as good as Spidey. Also, Just because Punisher has guns doesn't mean he would do better than Batman. Explain why Punisher has such a hard time with BULLSEYE. If Spidey can get close enough to punch out Ock with one freakin punch, don't you think Batman would be intelligent enough to find a way to beat Octavious? Batman- the guy that can predict where Impulse lands? COMON!
Man, Batman speed is not even close to spider-man's. Spidey moves 15 times faster than normal humans. Batman never really dodges bullets, he simply jumps of their range while Spider reflexes allow him to see bullets flight trajectory in a slow mo. Bats intelegense won't help him here. Tantacles could rip his head in a second. There is NO way Batman can dodge them.