Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's got nothing to do with lifting power.In the new Wizard mag. it says the new Sentinels weigh 200 tons.
You mean the new Big ass sentinels that are part of 616 and not ULTIMATE? Which is where 616 Magneto and not ULTIMATE magneto live.
And a black hole has to do with power. It's his powers is what allows him to lift a big ass space station into the air.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Now again I will say that you underestimate Ultimate Colossus, and that if 616 Colossus as young as he was could hold his own not be knocked out, and have Juggernaut himself say the boy could fight, and has heart then why do you say that Ultimate Colossus who Marvel has obviously made stronger than his 616 counterpart will get ran over in this fight.
I don't underestimate Ult. Colossus you are just way over estimating him. Juggernaut wasn't even lookig for a fight but then the X-Men ruined his night out and he thrashed Colossuss just to teach him a lesson and walked off. It wasn't a serious I'm "gonna kill you" fight cain was just annoyed and that is all Colossus was, an annoyance to him.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Now I'm not saying that Ultimate Colossus will beat Juggernaut all I'm saying is that Ultim ate Colossus would hold his own, and the fight might even be a draw.
It wouldn't be a draw Colossus would get flattened. Colossus couldn't beat Ult. Juggernaut and that guy didn't evne have the gem of Cytorakk when they fought he was just a big and strong Mutant. Now you are putting him up against thereal deal, how has fought and bested the original and more powerful versions that Ul.Colossus fought.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
It is true that the 616 Colossus when he is knocked out he changes back to his human form it's Ultimate Colossus that gets knocked out and stays the same.
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Originally posted by soujaboy09
Another thing I would like for you to answer is do you truly believe that we will ever see the things in comics that you saw 10 20 years ago? No because people are not stupid, and if people saw giant snakes wrap around the world, and a man pull it off they would laugh.
Do you truely beilve that a man made of metal can go miles under the ocean and lift a 8,000 ton submarine filled with water off the ocean bottom and bring it back to the shore?
Originally posted by soujaboy09
So Juggernaut vs Ultimate Colossus I see it more as a draw than anything else. If 616 Colossus can fight Juggernaut hold his own, and Ultimate Colossus can survive a nuke blast then he take a punch, and give Juggernaut a fight.
You see it as a draw cause your basis for comaprison is very scewed. The rather meager amount of feats are no comparison to place Colossus in the same strength as Thor and Hulk. Oh and both Thor and Hulk have survived a real full scale nuclear blast and neither one was kncoked out. Ult. Colossus got dropped by one attached toan arrow, just to put things in perspective.
Originally posted by WarmongerColossus was drunk at the time too. 😱 I'm sure his vision and reflexes were not up to normal either.
I don't underestimate Ult. Colossus you are just way over estimating him. Juggernaut wasn't even lookig for a fight but then the X-Men ruined his night out and he thrashed Colossuss just to teach him a lesson and walked off. It wasn't a serious I'm "gonna kill you" fight cain was just annoyed and that is all Colossus was, an annoyance to him.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Actually it's not a guess at marvel.com it says Magneto's powers are mature enouph to lift 30,000 tons.I have a question for everyone, why do you all think that 616 Magneto is so much better than his Ultimate counterpart does it actually say that or are you just guessing.
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Does this response look familar...? It was part of your post on the Ult Colossus vs Ult THING...
"I dont give a shit about that handbook I base my opinion off the comics not off what some man who doesn't even read the comic says."
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I geuss the handbooks have the wrong info (although they are actual comics) And MARVEL.com info is correct.
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Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea #172. But it was the new 96 ft. tall version.I was just getting something that we can fo off of.
so I was right. It was the new 616 ones
Originally posted by Jose123If you would have read my first post you would know I said that.
so I was right. It was the new 616 ones
Originally posted by Fishy 500They had some bio on the new Sentinels.
Was there articles about the Sentinnels ?Its ridiculous to suggest that characters such as the Thing cannot lift Sentinnels .... mann the handbooks suck !
I never said Wizard was right. I was just trying to find something we can go off of.
