Ultimate Colossus vs 616 Juggernaut

Started by Jose12311 pages
Originally posted by Fishy 500
When did the 30 000 tons happen !

I want know that as well.

Are you just guessing or did mangneto actually say that it was 30 000 tons of pressure.

I'd like to see Ult.Colossus try that on 616 "I can reverse the poles of the earth and defy the laws of physics by creating a black hole" Magneto

Originally posted by Jose123
I want know that as well.

Are you just guessing or did mangneto actually say that it was 30 000 tons of pressure.

I'd like to see Ult.Colossus try that on 616 "I can reverse the poles of the earth and defy the laws of physics by creating a black hole" Magneto

Mags was having to concentrate on a lot of things as well e.g. keeping that Island size rock in orbit, wolverine etc !

I'm absolutely appalled that Ult Colossus is listed as level 6 .... It makes no sense , technically anyone with Level 7 strength can beat him !

In Ult. X-men #5 Magneto held up around 100 Sentinels in the air in a giant circle. In the process making them all motionless.

Colossus has enough power to overcome that kind of magnetism.

Does anybody remember the exact issue he beat Mags up? I read it when it first came out then put it in the box. I wanna go check it out.

I know it was in the 30's.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
In Ult. X-men #5 Magneto held up around 100 Sentinels in the air in a giant circle. In the process making them all motionless.

Colossus has enough power to overcome that kind of magnetism.

Does anybody remember the exact issue he beat Mags up? I read it when it first came out then put it in the box. I wanna go check it out.

I know it was in the 30's.

Get the Return of the King trade !!!!! Back in the day when Ultimate X men was good ! The art is sooo shit now🙂

Originally posted by snoopdogg
In Ult. X-men #5 Magneto held up around 100 Sentinels in the air in a giant circle. In the process making them all motionless.

Colossus has enough power to overcome that kind of magnetism.

Does anybody remember the exact issue he beat Mags up? I read it when it first came out then put it in the box. I wanna go check it out.

I know it was in the 30's.

so your just guessing. okay just checking.

Question: Do you think that ult.colossus would even stand a chance against 616 magneto?

Originally posted by Jose123
so your just guessing. okay just checking.

Question: Do you think that ult.colossus would even stand a chance against 616 magneto?

no 🙂

Actually it's not a guess at marvel.com it says Magneto's powers are mature enouph to lift 30,000 tons.

I have a question for everyone, why do you all think that 616 Magneto is so much better than his Ultimate counterpart does it actually say that or are you just guessing.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Actually it's not a guess at marvel.com it says Magneto's powers are mature enouph to lift 30,000 tons.

I have a question for everyone, why do you all think that 616 Magneto is so much better than his Ultimate counterpart does it actually say that or are you just guessing.

you don't know what 616 magneto has accomplished or what he's done have you?

Being able to create black holes is something I never heard Ult.Chump I mean Magneto ever do.

Being able to actually bend and shape Adamantuim is also pretty impressive.

Because 616 Magneto is able to make black holes and stuff.

And it's 616 Magneto who lifted that 30,000 thing, not Ultimate. Ultimate has not showed anything like that.

And once again I ask

did it state that it was 30,000 tons of pressure in the comic or are you just guessing?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Because 616 Magneto is able to make black holes and stuff.

And it's 616 Magneto who lifted that 30,000 thing, not Ultimate. Ultimate has not showed anything like that.

How much would 100 Sentinels weigh?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
How much would 100 Sentinels weigh?

I don't know

How much power is required to create a black Hole?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
When Colossus is knocked out he turns back to human. But being your smart you already know that.

He was down for a few seconds. If you notice the two pages take place during the duration of a sentence from Juggernaut. Colossus was down for only a few seconds.

Ok but colossus was laying there the whole time not just when Juggs was talking to Wolverine and Kurt but when he was tearing down the building and didn't get up till Juggernaut left. So either he was out or he didn't want a peice.

Originally posted by Jose123
I don't know

How much power is required to create a black Hole?

That's got nothing to do with lifting power.

In the new Wizard mag. it says the new Sentinels weigh 200 tons.

One sentinel roughly weighs probably 5-10 tons.

So you guessed

How can you say 616 Magneto is stronger than Ultimate is 616 has been in around 400 more comics. We don't no what Ultimate Magneto can do so why do you judge.

Ultimate Magneto apperntly can bend Adamantuim if he took out the whole X Men which includes Wolverine, and Colossus had to save them.

Codename: Magneto
Real name: Erik Magnus Lensherr
Group affiliation: The Brotherhood
Base of operations: The Savage Land
First Appearance: Ultimate X-Men #1
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 190 lbs.
Eye color: Blue-gray
Hair color: Silver

Powers:
Erik Lensherr possess the ability to control mangetic fields. His talents range from twisting metal to controling the flow of iron in a person's blood stream.

History:
Erik Magnus Lensherr once worked in tandem with Charles Xavier to create The Brotherhood of Mutants in San Francisco, a place where mutants could seek refuge from persecution. When their ranks swelled, the two discovered the Savage Land -- a place for the mutant population to reside Unfortunately, Magneto's views towards the humans turned very sour.

Magneto began to believe that Homo superior was in fact ultimately destined to rule the earth, and that Homo sapien was standing in their way. Xavier, however, didn't share these ideals, and their relationship deteriorated. Magneto paralyzed Xavier from the waist down with a metal spear through his back in an all out battle between the two.

With Xavier out of the way, Magneto began his all out strike against the humans. He gathered his team of terrorists, known as the Brotherhood of Mutants, consisting of his son, the super-fast Quicksilver, his daughter, the probability-altering Scarlet Witch, and the Blob, Toad, Mastermind and Wolverine.

In response, the U.S. government deployed the Sentinel program, consisting on mutant hunting androids bent on eradicating mutants. Ever adamant, Magneto kidnapped the President of the United States' daughter in protest of the program. Fortunately, Charles Xavier's new team of mutant outlaws arrived to rescue her.

Frustrated with Magneto's continued terrorist actions, the U.S. government sent a fleet of Sentinels to thwart the mutant threat that existed in the Savage Land. The Sentinels murdered scores of mutants, leaving very few alive. Enraged, Magneto lashed out with his mutant ability and rearranged the Sentinels circuitry, programming them to hunt humans -- their first target being Washington, D.C.

Heeding the warning from Cyclops (who was in the Savage Land at the time), the X-Men assembled to combat the Sentinels and Magneto, who rode in atop one of the androids. While the X-Men defended the civillians, Wolverine and the Professor engaged Magneto directly, who had the President naked and at his mercy on the White House lawn. Confronted by Xavier, Magneto dismantled his wheelchair from right under him, and was ready to kill him before being interrupted by three claws to the chest -- courtesy of Wolverine, who had switched alliances from the Brotherhood to the X-Men. In another surprise move, Magneto's own son, Quicksilver, betrayed his father, and used his super speed to swiftly remove Magneto's helmet. Xavier then entered Magneto's mind and took control of his mutant power, turning him into a supercharged magnet. The result was the attraction of the destroyed Sentinel parts, and a gigantic explosion in the atmosphere.

Apparently, the explosion was the end of Magneto... Or was it?

Apparently not, as in issue twelve, the conclusion of the Return to Weapon X story, Professor X reveals to Marvel Girl that Magneto is in fact alive, and well... But with a twist. The Professor and Colossus embark on an impromptu field trip to the local park in which they enounter Magneto... who has no recollection of who he was. Xavier had actually not killed Magneto, but merely wiped all the memory of his terrorist actions from his mind, leaving him a kind, friendly neighbor, much to the shock of Colossus. The new Eric Lensherr's only worry? Why his watches keep spinning around and pointing to the magnetic North Pole.

While under the influence of Xavier's manipulations, Magneto's Brotherhood underwent many changes. His twin son and daughter turned to more peaceful ways of soothing the relationship between humans and mutants. Eventually, the Blob and Prosimian manipulated Hank McCoy, aka the Beast, into trusting an online personality created by the Blob. They were able to stage a meeting with the Beast, in which they used telepaths to rip the secret of their mutant leader out of Beast's head. The Brotherhood located Magneto and freed him from his mental bonds.

The master of magnetism had returned, and he was angry. Gathering his forces from across the globe, Magneto launched a full blown attack on humanity, announcing his return with the destruction of the Brooklyn Bridge in New York. After a meeting (conducted through a psychic liason) with Professor Xavier, Magneto alerted The Ultimates to the location of the X-Men, who were believed to be connected with The Brotherhood. After the battle, Magneto offered both Xavier (now captured by the U.S. Government), and The X-Men safety if they joined The Brotherhood once and for all. Both parties refused, and Magneto prepared to reverse the polarity of the earth in order to wipe of humanity. He enlisted the help of the mutant Forge, with the ability to create any machine. Forge built Magneto a device that would amplify Magneto's ability, thus allowing him to enact his final assault on human kind. At the last moment, Cyclops (who had been discovered unconcious in the Savage Land by Brotherhood operatives) interrupted Magneto with an optic blast to the back, and announced that the X-Men were on their way. Indeed they were. The X-Men blasted through the glass dome covering Magneto's citadel and took on The Brotherhood. Enraged, Magneto set off a nuclear blast north of Miami, but it was quickly contained by Jean Grey using her Phoenix abilities.

Magneto had trapped the X-Men in a magnetic field, chosing to slowly eliminate them one by one. Only by the strength of will of Colossus were the X-Men freed and Magneto defeated once and for all.

Magneto was taken into custody by The Ultimates, and is currently being held in the Triskelion, the Ultimates' New York base.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's got nothing to do with lifting power.

In the new Wizard mag. it says the new Sentinels weigh 200 tons.

That much? 😑

I don't think that Ultimate ones are as big as those though.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's got nothing to do with lifting power.

In the new Wizard mag. it says the new Sentinels weigh 200 tons.

Where does it say this ? 🙂

Originally posted by soujaboy09

Ultimate Magneto apperntly can bend Adamantuim if he took out the whole X Men which includes Wolverine, and Colossus had to save them.

So can 616...with ease...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
That much? 😑

I don't think that Ultimate ones are as big as those though.

Mate, 100 tons isnt that much ! 🙂