street fighter vs mortal kombat

Started by jinzin32 pages

this the only thing I feel needs to be addressed then

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

lol so we're going by "said" and not by "done" or "consistent"

so if someone said bison can't pick up a table with his tk that's a solid argument?
or If someone claims subzero can't freeze more than a 20ft3 volume.. that's okay too?
it's not consistant because it hasn't been done, it hasn't been done because it would end the game franchise... but it is a described ability...
p.s. have we actually literally seen any souls sent to hell by akuma in canon sf games during canon endings?

Originally posted by jinzin

"the point" of mortal kombat is to demonstrate that mortals can change the destinies that god have laid out for them....

no mortal ever "rose" to beat raiden, shinnok, or shao kahn at their full power... instead Gods let themselves be depowered to be capible of fighting in a MORTAL kombat tournament.. makes quite a bit of difference when lui kang beats a mortalized shao kahn then when shao kahn and raiden are quaking the planet with their fight...

So is this Mortal Kombat the game characters vs Street fighter or Mortal Kombat how I want it to be characters vs Street Fighter.

The guys behind Mortal Kombat have been ripping ideas off for eons.

If this were a battle of originality I would have to give the win to Street Fighter, but since this is a fist fight I'm going to... have to give it to Street fighter. 😆

Originally posted by Psyquis52
So is this Mortal Kombat the game characters vs Street fighter or Mortal Kombat how I want it to be characters vs Street Fighter.

The guys behind Mortal Kombat have been ripping ideas off for eons.

If this were a battle of originality I would have to give the win to Street Fighter, but since this is a fist fight I'm going to... have to give it to Street fighter. 😆

what the hell are you talking about?

you must not be very well familiarized the the MK mythology.. cause that had nothing to do with how I want the characters to be but rather how they're represented through the storyline...

you think sf wins.. great...but don'thurt yourself and go to all the trouble of thinking why or anything... 🙄

What I'm saying is that if the characters have to be depowered to be in MK then that would be the versions that SF has to fight. Not the all powerful gods that would smite Gill like he was a sissy.

Therefore level playing field.
And that whole thing about originality was just me venting. It didn't mean anything.

But you sure are an awfully nice guy. 🙄

Originally posted by Psyquis52
What I'm saying is that if the characters have to be depowered to be in MK then that would be the versions that SF has to fight.

no it wouldn't... this isn't an MK tournement.. the gods that make the decree to mortalize lesser gods and warlords in MK tournies have no sanction over the SF earth. SF earth is not under their protection hence MK guys don't get depowered... again.. shao kahn invaded earth in MKIII he suffered from no depowering and his battle with raiden "shook the earth to it's core"... why? cause it wasn't a tournement it was an invasion..

also you have to consider guys like shinnok and onaga who suffer NO mortalization whatsoever...

as for me being a nice guy.. you come in here and immediately insult my rationale... how SHOULD I respond? should I give you royal treatment? pffft.

Insulting rationale is part of a debate. That doesn't mean you have to be an unmitigated...well. No point in going that direction.

I've always hated this debate. There's the whole god's being involved and I've always said that this was playable characters vs playable characters. That's MK characters in their selectable status not their capacity, which means no destroy the world power levels. As you so delicately put it. If those power levels are permitted then sure MK wins but that's not what we wanted to see. We want to see this like it's a MK tournament, therefore the playing field is level. If you don't want that, fine, that's your bag. I want to see this match level. That brings it down to opinion and in my opinion Street fighter wins. I have my reasons and you are obviously unimpressed by my opinions so...tongue

Originally posted by Psyquis52
Insulting rationale is part of a debate. That doesn't mean you have to be an unmitigated...well. No point in going that direction.

disecting rationale is part of a debate reviewing rationale is part of a debate.. insulting rationale? unjustified? no that's practically ad hominem.

Originally posted by Psyquis52
I've always hated this debate. There's the whole god's being involved and I've always said that this was playable characters vs playable characters. That's MK characters in their selectable status not their capacity, which means no destroy the world power levels. As you so delicately put it. If those power levels are permitted then sure MK wins but that's not what we wanted to see. We want to see this like it's a MK tournament, therefore the playing field is level. If you don't want that, fine, that's your bag. I want to see this match level. That brings it down to opinion and in my opinion Street fighter wins. I have my reasons and you are obviously unimpressed by my opinions so...tongue

then sf can't win without depowering MK fighters...

street fighter still doesn't win.. partially due to characters already mentioned partially due to supernatural powers that they can't handle.. there's only about half a dozen guys on the sf roster that are really intimidating...

Incidentally I've been reviewing pages and I don't actually recall insulting your rationale.

Originally posted by Psyquis52
So is this Mortal Kombat the game characters vs Street fighter or Mortal Kombat how I want it to be characters
that was certainly an insult tomy rationale... I clearly explained my reasoning and gave supporting facts to back it up...

Originally posted by jinzin
that was certainly an insult tomy rationale... I clearly explained my reasoning and gave supporting facts to back it up...

Totally teasing. I know you backed your's up. Next time I'll put a lol in. I wasn't serious at all. Sorry about that. Didn't mean to make it personal.

My bad. 😮

Anyway. Like your sig! 😄

oh ok... damn internet making me interpret things based on my previous experience...
okay.. my bad for misinterpreting sorry about that...

thank you.. I like my sig too.. lol...

Originally posted by jinzin
this the only thing I feel needs to be addressed then

so if someone said bison can't pick up a table with his tk that's a solid argument?
or If someone claims subzero can't freeze more than a 20ft3 volume.. that's okay too?
it's not consistant because it hasn't been done, it hasn't been done because it would end the game franchise... but it is a described ability...
p.s. have we actually literally seen any souls sent to hell by akuma in canon sf games during canon endings?

There's a difference in something we KNOW by their described abilites and powers (harnessing ki) and whatnot, vs a claim... you already know this though... same thing in Wolverine vs Spiderman...

but bison's never done this before.... so there's no reason to think that he could..

akumas never actually seen literally sending a soul to hell... how do we know he can do that? isn't that just a claim in and of itself?

Originally posted by jinzin
but bison's never done this before.... so there's no reason to think that he could..

He's used is telekinetic prowress to stop a bullet in motion, so I'm sure he can lift a table. This is in a believable range for Bison however, and I wouldn't dispute it, unless someone said a mountain or something.

Originally posted by jinzin
akumas never actually seen literally sending a soul to hell... how do we know he can do that? isn't that just a claim in and of itself?
Actually that's an interesting point, as what exactly happens is open to interpretation, but since it is what his technique is said to do, and the opponents do have to empty their mind, etc. We can still conclude that it targets the soul and is a very damaging attack.

street fighter

i i say mk becuse mk has way more people i say if they if they had the same amount of people i would go with street fighter

Originally posted by 1021kid
i i say mk becuse mk has way more people i say if they if they had the same amount of people i would go with street fighter
They do?

Capcom has quite a few guys themself... I'd say maybe around the same... but I may be missing something on either side.

is this just the orginal fighters from streetfighter ? or all of them from superstreetfighter ?

off topic: nice sig diabloman 😂

on topic: not sure who'll win, but im going for MK..

Originally posted by diabloman
is this just the orginal fighters from streetfighter ? or all of them from superstreetfighter ?

Actually there are many SF games that play a role, Street Fighter characters:

#1: Ryu
#2: Ken
#3: Retsu
#4: Geki
#5: Joe
#6: Mike
#7: Lee
#8: Gen
#9: Birdie
#10: Eagle
#11: Adon
#12: Sagat
#13: Chun Li
#14: Guile
#15: Blanka
#16: Zangief
#17: E. Honda
#18: Dhalsim
#19: Balrog
#20: Vega
#21: M.Bison
#22: Cammy
#23: T.Hawk
#24: Dee Jay
#25: Fei Long
#26: Akuma
#27: Charlie
#28: Dan
#29: Guy
#30: Rose
#31: Sakura
#32: Juli
#33: Juni
#34: R.Mika
#35: Karin
#36: Rolento
#37: Cody
#38: Sodom
#39: Alex
#40: Ibuki
#41: Yang
#42: Yun
#43: Sean
#44: Makoto
#45: Remy
#46: Dudley
#47: Elena
#48: Twelve
#49: Q
#50: Oro
#51: Necro
#52: Hugo
#53: Urien
#54: Gill
#55: Pullum
#56: Hokuto
#57: D.Dark
#58: Skullomania
#59: C.Jack
#60: Garuda
#61: Allen
#62: Blair
#63: Darun
#64: Kairi
#65: Beta
#66: Gamma
#67: Sharon
#68: Hayate
#69: Shadowgeist
#70: Nanase
#71: Vulcano Rosso
#72: Area
#73: Ingrid

As you can see, this is quite a list, and this list as you may notice, doesn't contain all the different versions of characters... I say SF has more characters spanning their games...