Do you know what trolling is... its when you come in here and provoke (i.e nutswinging, while adding nothing useful.)
Originally posted by TwisterGameXBut I'm the one DEBATING... you are a stain on the page, as usual doing nothing useful... not surprised however... go make a stupid thread that makes spiderman lose.
And you are attacking me because 🙄 oh yeah for trolling.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Do you know what trolling is... its when you come in here and provoke (i.e nutswinging, while adding nothing useful.)But I'm the one DEBATING... you are a stain on the page, as usual doing nothing useful... not surprised however... go make a stupid thread that makes spiderman lose.
bitter 🙂
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting.
Tha C-Master- I don't really take those boards serioiusly, I thought I told you that.
Me and (edit)troll on there all day, and I honestly say I like it more when you fight with me on there its funny.
I may piss you off, but I thought you realized I was being a shithead on purpose.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What injust claims? I haven't claimed anything, that they aren't spectacular, or impressive, but compared to what? How can it be a certain level when I haven't related it to anything? Don't fool me into thinking you can't comprehend and interpret comprehensive English.
nice dodge c.. 🙄 you're backtracking again... my comprehension of the english language allows me to understand that you claimed they've never done anything impressive... and then again made the same implication. I've already quoted you on it...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The only reason YOU keep saying it is because its the sole premise to your argument, which btw with your unjust claims to Street Fighter help bring this right where we started, its the same debate your side lost back in June, I don't see the need to rehash.
Originally posted by Tha C-Masterno I'm not that's what you'r doing...
You are exaggerating them, by stating one sided parts to them, and as usual, ignoring how it came to past, in usual Jinzin fashion, simply looking at the end result, but not interpretating what happened in the entire fight
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
A typical jinzin post, why all of this sounds cute, the way you put it on paper makes it sound highly one-sided and illogical. Makes it almost look fanboyish...You did the same thing in Terry vs Ken (Ryu), "Terry beat a fricking GOD, a god".
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Where did I ignore a feat? Did I do it because you said so... as usual, go back and point out where I "ignored" these feats. My point is, as usual, you ignore how it happened, or the conditions that applied to them... which in THAT case the feat alone wouldn't be enough. Is that clear...
prime examples..
rayden.
scorpion.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Back tracking according to what? I hadn't really even delved on an argument UNTIL the last post, and what I say holds true: I can't say something is unimpressive if I haven't given it the means to compare it to.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I understand that they are powerful, but I'm also understanding your very partial judgement to them and ignoring certain plotholes and devices, and amping up your side...
for example?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Lets not play stupid ok. 😉 We've been down this road before...
something tells me you're not playing.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
False? Disingeniune? 😆 Compared to who? Because I don't agree with your interpretation its a false claim? Wow... thats a new one.Where were my false claims, where did I say that something *didn't* happen, I didn't. I simply disagreed with your claims... and now they're false? Come now...
I'm curious as if you interpret storylines on ANYTHING... seeing as you don't understand what plot devices or PIS is, I don't have to think far...
when you use non cannon characters in a non-cannon crossover to prove a point about what the real character could do as if it were canon.. or hell what you said about scorpion
or sub zero
or rayden
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But for the sake of it, lets show what a plot device is...
typical.... this has nothing to do with anything in this debate.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Again, why is that you think when one of YOUR side are defeated, that they aren't defeated...
cause he'll come back and kill whoever "deafeated" him.. it's not that hard of a concept to follow....
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Try contradicting ME next time... if he's defeated, he's gone... there's no special rule that gives defeated characters chances to come back...
basically a concession right here.. "my characters can't win unless the rules are in their favor"
there's no rules regaurding mass egagements either...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
If thats the case well: Gill>Resurrection.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No you didn't you also claimed that Scorpion had deadlier range with his... which is just atrociously ridiculous...Scorpion's projectile isn't better than Ryu's, Bison's, Sagat's... or anything... stop amping him up.
Messatsu Gou Hado>>>>>>>>> Spear....
you know he has more than a spear right? 😕
and yes i did on the first account and no i didn't on the second...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Now you're smoking... are you talking about game mechanics??? Street Fighter has some of the BEST fighting mechanics in terms of complexity and depth. Parries, Reversals, Guards, Guard Crush, Ex, Combo to Special, Special to Super, Quick Get Up, Air-Wake Up, Air Throw...3rd Strike had alot of depth and maturity, and the game had lightning quick reflexes and timing, and was alot more challenging than say... MK games where you hit pre coded (mash combos) and take of 45% life...
Mortal Kombat was built off of blood, and while the game has gotten better, it isn't even DEEMED serious enough for good tourney play.... 😬
sf is for button mashers baby...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Stop trying to take the higher road and admit to your mistakes.
stop trying to take the higher road? 😂 would you rather I just insult you constantly as you do me instead?
I'd admit a mistake.. why can't you... ?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
REGULAR akuma did that... these guys hardly show their max...
yes he did and still
earth>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ayers rock...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Shin Akuma destroyed a meteor the size of earth... Characters like him are top tear, shaking the world in a simple stomp, considered too powerful for heaven and hell... he IS a god...Gill Makes meteors come down, splits oceans on a whim, and resurrects.
"he IS a god"
you're certainly not bias at all are you?
wait I thought you didn't like these... "titles"
shin akuma isn't a canon character.. his feats were in a non canon crossover.... try using a character who's actually IN the sf storyline...
and gill gets offed by the likes of bison..... whatever...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You keep forgetting the plot, they aren't trying to blow up and consume planets, but simply FIGHT... its what they do...
you're forgetting the plot.. you know the one that's completely devoid of shin akuma.... 😉
Originally posted by Magee
If you have ever read the MK comics you would know that most of the SF characters dont stand a chance against the likes of Raiden, Shao Khan, Quan-Chi shang-tsung etc. Even the lesser earthrealm protectors would give the SF cast problems.MK wins, fast tbh.
seriously.. THANK YOU.....
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Raiden Killed himself and two of the "shin akuma owning sorcerors" and didn't do a blast that was that considerable... pfft.Akuma sunk an island with a simple punch..
These guys don't have the same speed, warping, or nothing... not in gameplay... of course in a simulated match its debateable.
smoke/noob saibot both harder to beat than akuma...
rayden, scorpion, noob saibot, smoke, shang stung, kung lao all warp and that's just off the top of my head..
finally.. rayden's blast was a concentrated one... we've already seen a MORTAL rayden literally shake the earth to it's core.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Raiden expelled his energies to own some sorcerors, and the sorcerors doubled team to beat Liu...
actually he did so to beat the dragonking...
and stop talking about lui like he's some pushover.. a guy who can amp up his chi to trade blows with a class 100 is NO pushover. AND the doubleteaming occured before they got to the soultombs btw...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Akuma busts mountains... pushovers.
are ALL of them capible of destroying planets.. so much for mountains..
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No... but ignoring how it happened..
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No, *you* aren't because you can't handle the power. /sarcasm
pretty much says it all right here...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But the plot CONTRADICTS your evidence, if I was to say that ken beat evil ryu, I would have to take into account that Ryu was distracted... see?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Your interpretation of the information would HAVE to be shown, or else you wouldn't be able to conjure an argument.
example..... aguy blows up planet...
that's what happened.. what need is there for interpretation... oh wait.. the planet must have been distracted...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
How about a meteor storm?Or a shungokusatsu?
Misogi?
Kongou No Kouretsan?
All of them are unique, MK deals alot more with death and destruction, so it will have moves pertaining to that, so what?
if the sf cast dies because of those moves well....
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Killer Instinct has crossovers you don't know anything about killer instinct.
first off why bring up killer instinct? second why assume I know nothing about killer instinct?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
CROSSOVERS... its ALL you use all the time, Spiderman vs Wolverine anyone?
well at least I certainly hope you do....
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not from where I've seen...
yet you claim to know oh so much about mk... 😕
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You IGNORE plot devices, and when I disagree with your claims, it equates to me making a false one?
no.. but when you make a false claim well...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
(foes aside), oh but wait, you left that out... how convienent.
how fast can you run backwards c? 🙄
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Your argument "is that I like it so it makes sense, so lets ignore all conditions..."
well you see what you want to see and read what you want to read.. MK wins that's how I "interpret" this going down.. sf MAY have some characters who can own a great many of the classic mk characters.. but for the most part MK wins and has shown their power were with the SF characters we have to once again give them the benefit of the doubt ignoring anything that makes them look bad... figures..
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About Scorpion
Scorpion is an undead hell spawned ninja spectre who walks the grounds of the Mortal Kombat world to seek revenge against those who were responsible for the death of his clan and family. Despite the fact that he has, in the past, joined the forces of evil (only if they promise to provide him the means of being alive on Earth, or to take revenge) it is a mistake to classify him as an evil character. He has in fact been known to assist the game's heroes, but his alignment could change at any given moment, depending on what he was offered in return. Many fans consider Scorpion to be an anti-hero, pointing out that many of his endings have always shown him doing something that benefits the heroes. In addition to that, his characteristics, persona and his general point of being dependant only on himself have all contributed to his popularity. Scorpion has always been a loner by nature, and has a deadly combination of unwavering tenacity and ferocity, in addition to his deadly martial arts background. Scorpion was manipulated by Quan Chi, who promised Scorpion life and used the ninja spectre to defeat his nemesis, Sub-Zero the younger). However, unlike other ninjas, he has a sense of honor and appreciates the value of human life. Because of his undead status, Scorpion is practically impossible to permanently defeat. You may think you have defeated him for good but he'll just pop back up later if he has a reason to revive.
Scorpion is easily recognized by his yellow and black clad ninja uniform. Unmasked, his head is a (sometimes flaming) skull (which has contributed to his signature fatality).
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Statistics
Real Name: Hanzo Hasashi.
Date of Birth: April 1, 1962
Age: 43 (32 at time of death)
Date of Death: 2 BMK.
Place of Birth: Japan (was later reborn in hell (also known as Netherealm) as Scorpion).
Height: 6 ft 1.
Weight: 210 lb (95 kg)
Hair color: black in life, has none currently, reduced to a skeleton.
Eye color: brown, turned white after he became undead.
Alignment: Neutral (is subject to change to Good, due to his status as the enforcer of The Elder Gods, and their hand-picked Champion).
Fighting Styles: Hapkido and Moi Fah (in Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, his original secondary fighting style was Pi Gua).
Weapon: Mugai Ryu (a sword that has a flaming trail of fire when swung). His previous weapon was the Ninja Sword.
Allies: The Elder Gods, Sub-Zero the younger, The Shirai Ryu clan.
Enemies: Shang Tsung, Quan Chi, Sub-Zero (the elder), The Lin Kuei clan (before reformation).
While he is not considered to be Scorpion's friend, Sub-Zero has in the past helped him and vice versa; a great amount of respect exists between the two ninjas. While warriors like Liu Kang, Kitana, Sonya Blade and Jax may not accept Scorpion to their side, Sub-Zero believes that he is a powerful force of light who does things his own way (Scorpion travels and works alone).