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Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
I can't find my list of substitutes.. Here is some other information about it:
Scientists are now able to do experiments without animals that they couldn't do before. Sometimes, a scientist can do an experiment on a tissue culture instead of on an entire animal. For example, skin cells can be kept alive in a dish and studied without hurting the animal beyond first taking the skin cells. Since many tissue cultures can grow and reproduce, it can be a long time before more cells need to be taken from a living animal. Computers have also helped. Some experiments can be done on a computer-generated animal instead of on a real animal.
I would rather that they tested on people, for one thing not only the whole "suffering" thing but also because ANIMAL TESTING IS NOT RELIABLE!

it is reliable, scientists use specific animals for specific testing. animals that have the same system as humans are particularly useful for medical research and using skin cells takes a long time to see the full effects

they should offer the homeless a few few bucks to do testing. it'll get them off the street for a while. 😛

Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
I can't find my list of substitutes.. Here is some other information about it:
Scientists are now able to do experiments without animals that they couldn't do before. Sometimes, a scientist can do an experiment on a tissue culture instead of on an entire animal. For example, skin cells can be kept alive in a dish and studied without hurting the animal beyond first taking the skin cells. Since many tissue cultures can grow and reproduce, it can be a long time before more cells need to be taken from a living animal. Computers have also helped. Some experiments can be done on a computer-generated animal instead of on a real animal.

Ok, so a computer simulated model is more reliable than the real thing when testing experiment procedures and medications? 🤨 I think not. 🙄 The skin culture, that can be used, but not for all types of procedures.

Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
I would rather that they tested on people, for one thing not only the whole "suffering" thing but also because ANIMAL TESTING IS NOT RELIABLE!

So basically you'd rather a human being die from bad experiment testing than an animal that grew up in a lab?

You value animal life more than the human race.

Originally posted by *lizziekk*
it is reliable, scientists use specific animals for specific testing. animals that have the same system as humans are particularly useful for medical research and using skin cells takes a long time to see the full effects

Damn it Lizzie, you have not put much research into this, do you know about thalidomide.. It was just horrible... It isn't reliable as animals can react differently.. And there are more ways than I mentioned before..

Originally posted by mysterio69
they should offer the homeless a few few bucks to do testing. it'll get them off the street for a while. 😛

but they could die which is much worse then living on the streets.....

Originally posted by KENobi™
Ok, so a computer simulated model is more reliable than the real thing when testing experiment procedures and medications? 🤨 I think not. 🙄 The skin culture, that can be used, but not for all types of procedures.

So basically you'd rather a human being die from bad experiment testing than an animal that grew up in a lab?

You value animal life more than the human race.


I don't, but I just don't think you can say it is moral to trade lives.

Originally posted by *lizziekk*
but they could die which is much worse then living on the streets.....

well, jeez. it's not like they got a full schedule anyways.

Originally posted by *lizziekk*
but they could die which is much worse then living on the streets.....

Or maybe it could be a new thing in prisions you do a crime and get tested on! 🙄

Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
Or maybe it could be a new thing in prisions you do a crime and get tested on! 🙄

Deaths through research are absolutely unnecessary and are morally no different from murder.

Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
I don't, but I just don't think you can say it is moral to trade lives.

They are animals giving their lives to help humans, willingly or not. That's the way it's always been. Now tell me that humans aren't above animals. We've always used animals to survive, we may be dependant on them but we're still above them.

Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
Deaths through research are absolutely unnecessary and are morally no different from murder.

what about child murderers and molesters?

Originally posted by KENobi™
Ok, so a computer simulated model is more reliable than the real thing when testing experiment procedures and medications? 🤨 I think not. 🙄 The skin culture, that can be used, but not for all types of procedures.

I didn't say that part was more reliable I meant testing products on people was the answer, and there were many ways which meant animals didn't have to die.

Originally posted by KENobi™
They are animals giving their lives to help humans, willingly or not. That's the way it's always been. Now tell me that humans aren't above animals. We've always used animals to survive, we may be dependant on them but we're still above them.

Was the world ever meant to be run by humans only?No. Do people own the world? No. Are people above animals? No.
Originally posted by mysterio69
what about child murderers and molesters?

I don't think of animals as above people! I think everyone is equal! That is wrong too!

Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
Deaths through research are absolutely unnecessary and are morally no different from murder.

Yet without the sacrifices many more would die. I don't see anything whatsoever wrong with the testing.

Originally posted by KENobi™
Yet without the sacrifices many more would die. I don't see anything whatsoever wrong with the testing.

Stopping death with more death is never the right option.

human v animals

Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
Stopping death with more death is never the right option.

it is if your stopping death using an animal.

Originally posted by *lizziekk*
human v animals

No it's not, I beleive they are equal.
Yes I think I am equal to an animal, many people cannot understand that because they want to be "better" but animals have just as much of a reason to be here as us.

Originally posted by *lizziekk*
it is if your stopping death using an animal.

That is disgusting. You cannot stop death with death.