Originally posted by _Sanctuary_But we're smarter and the most evolved. It's how nature works. If we're all equal then that means that a dog can be a bus driver. Or a milipede can do nuclear physics? If humans are equal to other animals, then how come we're the only one's with technology? Animal rights?
Hey! Each life is equal, a human being is not above an animal in anyway!
Eat Meat!
and watch the internet is for porn.
Originally posted by xyz jedi
But we're smarter and the most evolved. It's how nature works. If we're all equal then that means that a dog can be a bus driver. Or a milipede can do nuclear physics? If humans are equal to other animals, then how come we're the only one's with technology? Animal rights?Eat Meat!
and watch the internet is for porn.
Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
No, it means each life is worth the same thing. It doesn't matter what you can and can't do, if someone is snarter than you it doesn't mean they are any better than you.
Animal rights is an incorrect term, to have rights you have to know you have rights and others around you have rights.
Yeah, I watched it.. 😑
Let me ask you...do you support PETA?
Originally posted by KENobi™
Let me ask you...do you support PETA?
Originally posted by xyz jedi
animals have rights, yes, but they aren't equal, we're all different. A fish can't be equal to a bear, right?
Originally posted by Cringe
Tell that to the cow from which I ate beef from last night 😖
Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
Not really...
But do you like what PETA stands for, what they fight against?
1) PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group’s overall goal as “total animal liberation.” This means no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets (not even seeing-eye dogs). PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals.
2) Despite its constant moralizing about the “unethical” treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 10,000 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2003, PETA put to death over 85 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.
3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist” group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid $70,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that “blowing stuff up and smashing windows” is “a great way to bring about animal liberation.”
4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: “Your Mommy Kills Animals!” PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel’s audience: “Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be.”
5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM's president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.
6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs “died for their sins.” PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn't be allowed. And its infamous “Holocaust on Your Plate” campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals.
7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.”
Originally posted by KENobi™
But do you like what PETA stands for, what they fight against?1) PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group’s overall goal as “total animal liberation.” This means no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets (not even seeing-eye dogs). PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals.
2) Despite its constant moralizing about the “unethical” treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 10,000 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2003, PETA put to death over 85 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.
3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of ,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist” group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid ,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that “blowing stuff up and smashing windows” is “a great way to bring about animal liberation.”
4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: “Your Mommy Kills Animals!” PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel’s audience: “Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be.”
5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM's president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.
6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs “died for their sins.” PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn't be allowed. And its infamous “Holocaust on Your Plate” campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals.
7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.”
Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
I argue against animal testing, not for the PETA.
You didn't even read that. PETA and other animal rights groups, not all, follow these same precidents. I suggest you read that and learn the truth.
Once you're done with that, read this.
"To claim that animals have "rights" is to completely strip the word of any meaning whatsoever. P&T make this point with the "animal prison" bit, but do not state it out right. But hey they are in the entertainment business, not running a college course. Rights require responsibility, DIRECT responsibility. Rights are not something for us to grant to just anything that strikes our fancy, including humans! We do not "grant" rights to humans, they are a natural precondition of our consiousness. Human beings have been struggling for centuries to define and to demand the recognition of what is an essential part of our nature. Until an animal can demonstrate that it understands and will respect MY rights, pretending that it has them is a mockery and a disgrace. This is not the animals fault and I have no intention of skinning it alive for pleasure because of it, but it is the truth. Someone might say: well maybe dolphins or chimpanzees can understand rights, we just cant communicate with each other. Wrong. Sit down with a chimp and see how far you get, sign language, whatever you can come up with. Unless he is used to being around you or is a tamed animal he will likely claw your head off. Dolphins, even ones who are very used to people, will often force themselves sexually on anything that moves, not to mention that they are known to gang up on and kill young of their own species. This is not to say that cross-species communication is impossible or even that someday we won't discover another species that is capable of understanding and respecting rights. But we know of no such species, it is likely that we wont for a very long time."