KMC Rules

Started by Sir Whirlysplat12 pagesPoll

Are you Happy with KMC?

The Current State of KMC: Your Thoughts?

I personally am very happy with the high quality debating we see on this forum, the polite way others accept individuals rights and respects each others colour, creed and sexuality 😕. However I belong to other forums out there like many of you and at least one has decided to go further in it's protection of posters, would there be any value in pertitioning Raz for the sort of policy out lined below? It might prevent some of the incidents we have seen in 2005 though.

The below is a list of the general rules that the staff enforce on the ---------- forums. They should not be confused with a binding list with which to hide behind, but a common sense list to be used as a guideline for members. To that end staff are NOT limited solely to enforcing the rules listed here and can, as a whole, decide to go beyond the rules here, or even disregard them as special circumstances might dictate. This policy list is perfectly open to amendment and policies can be added or detracted, retroactively, as the staff deems fit.

This should be considered a warning, a policy in itself, no lawyering over these policies will be permitted. There is only one truly binding rule at -------- and that is that if the staff, as a whole, disagree with your actions, those actions are wrong.

1. No Flaming.
Flaming, as far as policy is concerned, is in respect to personal attacks in debate. As a rule of thumb this is considered to have got out of hand when the integral points being debated have degenerated to a secondary position to the personal attacks being thrown. Debates DO get heated, and all moderators take this into account, but they should never reach the point where insult takes precedence over the points raised. Personal attacks include attacks based on intelligence, race, sexual orientation, or religious belief.

2. No Pornography or Excessive Violence.
Pornography is considered to be the posting of pictures or artwork depicting nudity (except certain artistic depictions, check with a moderator) or sexual acts. Excessive violence is considered to be pictures or videos which contain real or realistic use of excessive gore and which can be considered to be far outside commonly accepted rules of decency and would be unsuitable for minors.
Exception to this policy exists in the Anime Forum, which has a basic age verification process in force. Rules are more relaxed in this forum, but are still limited to what might be considered to be drawn or animated soft nudity (namely that which is NOT in the process of a sexual act).

3. Remain on Topic.
Nearly all topics will drift, and this is something that all the moderators are aware of and take into account. It's what makes debates interesting. BUT the act of outright thread hijacking (deliberate or accidental) is not permitted. An example might be a debate on spacecraft with the mention of the Apollo program and someone deciding to use that as an excuse to talk about Apollo and other ancient mythology. Perpetrators will be asked to form a new thread on the subject, persistent perpetrators will be punished.

4. No Spamming.
Spamming includes but is not limited to nonsense posts and posts that are commercial in nature. A little bit of fun here and there is usually good for the forums, but as with the flaming rules if the actual points being debated have become secondary to the nonsense being thrown around they have reached an unacceptable limit. Commercial advertisement is never acceptable or permitted by members.

5. The Affairs of Other Boards to Not Concern Us.
In the interests of preventing cross board "invasions" the discussion of the acts on other boards (concerning the intelligence, beliefs, or personal habits of members of another board) is not permitted. Any independently planned "invasions" of another board by members and especially in the name of ---- are subject to staff review and possible permanent banning.

6. Linking to and Discussion of "Pirate" Sites is not Permitted.
This includes peer to peer sites like "Kazaa", "Napster" and sites cataloguing bittorrent files. In gaming this would relate to "warez" and websites allowing the downloading of games. If in doubt, don't post it.

7. No Hate Speech.
This includes the advocating of genocide or active discrimination of a particular race or religion. We are willing to allow for many unconventional and unpopular opinions to be discussed on our forums but NOT to the point where one could be considered to be hate-mongering. An example of this would be the proposition to nuke the Vatican, or Mecca. If you discuss topics bordering on hate speech you will be expected to have solid and factual reasoning to back up your opinions.

8. Keep Swearing to a Minimum.
----------- has an extraordinarily liberal swear filter in existence to the benefit of open expression, but this is not to be abused. If you've had a bad day don't go around throwing a swear word in to every other sentence as though it were regular punctuation. Common sense should dictate when your swearing as reached an excessive point and common sense will dictate any action or lack of action the staff deems necessary to keep swearing within reasonable levels.

9. Plagiarism will not be Tolerated.
Members posting material they did not write must provide proper sources, and claims of plagiarism will be seriously investigated.

10. In Serious Debates, Standard Debating Practices and Etiquette are in Effect.
To put this simply one should be expected to back up their science or history based opinions with compulsive reasoning and preferably solid fact. The nature of serious debate is understandably subjective, and staff are expected to use their own common sense to guide their judgement on the issue. Consistent statement of opinion in ths regard without solid backup can be considered trolling, and would be deemed unacceptable.
This rule is extended to Versus Debates, also, where opinions in debate are expected to be backed up by valid references under the accepted canon rules.

10. additional - Hate speech is not allowed. This includes but is not limited to the advocation of genocide of any religion, race or nationality, and the advocation of the destruction of any religious or national city or structure. It also includes but is not limited to religions, ethnic, gender or sexual orientation.

11. Harassment is not Permitted.
If someone does not want your company outside of the forums (or inside, via PMs) you have no right to force yourself on them. Members are under no obligation to respond to your IMs or PMs. Harassment of the female population is most especially unacceptable. If you have a bad history with another person from real life or another forum don't bring it to -------------. Members found to be outright harassing another can find themselves under staff review, and possible permanent banning.

With regard versus debates;
12. Accepted Canon Rules Apply.
The recognised canon in a given debate will depend upon the opening post or upon the existing guidelines established by the franchises in question. Any arguments over the nature of canon or what qualifies as such will be restricted to threads devoted to the topic. Any arguments over canon policy in a thread not devoted to that topic will be treated as a thread hijack, and dealt with accordingly.

13. No Spoilers
A spoiler is something that reveals plot points of a book, film or TV series that might not otherwise be known to other posters. In all normal threads they should only be posted in a hidden form (text the same colour as background or an outside link) WITH clearly readable warnings as to them being possible spoilers. Spoiler threads can be created, with a clearly labeled title, and in these threads the subject can be openly talked about without having to make undue effort to hide spoilers. It would be considered equally bad by the staff to post spoilers in a non-spoiler thread as to complain about spoilers in a spoiler thread.

Common sense is the main factor in deciding what is and is not a spoiler. The plot of the Empire Strikes Back, and the revelation that Darth Vader is Luke's father, would not be something generally accepted to be covered by this rule but more obscure pieces, irrespective of age, should be treated with more care. By that same token material which is freely advertised (trailers, official press releases, TV guides etc etc) will not commonly be classed as a spoiler (if the creators don't think it is, we sure as hell will not). At the end of the day you should place spoiler warnings if there is any doubt in your mind.

Complaints Procedure;

While the decisions of the staff, as a whole, are final it is permitted and encouraged for any issue over moderational decisions to be questioned privately with the staff. The procedure is as follows;

1. A Personal Message (PM) or instant message (ICQ, MSN etc, where applicable) should be sent to the moderator who participated in the questionable act.

2. If you receive no response, or you find the response not to your satisfaction, you may direct your inquiries to the Regional Moderator (if applicable) of the forum group in which the incident happened. The Spacebattles General Forums.

3. Should you still find the outstanding issue unresolved you can make an appeal to the s have an overall responsibility over the whole forum.

4. The final resort if all this is unsatisfactory is to speak to the administrators themselves. It should be noted that the administrators are busy people and they might not appreciate trivial matters being placed on their doorstep. Once this procedure is exhausted the administrator decision is final.

********. Hate speech is not allowed. This includes but is not limited to the advocation of genocide of any religion, race or nationality, and the advocation of the destruction of any religious or national city or structure. It also includes but is not limited to religions, ethnic, gender or sexual orientation.

I have posted a pole although its Statistical relevance is 0.

If, after following all guidelines listed above, you can still create a post that consists of two or more words, you win an award.

Originally posted by botankus
If, after following all guidelines listed above, you can still create a post that consists of two or more words, you win an award.

Strangely the above forum has many good debates in it, but....... It has a lot less hate speak etc.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I have posted a pole although its Statistical relevance is 0.

by the way why I put pole and not poll is a as mysterious to me as it is stupid - brain fart I think.

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What is your point, Whirly? Just run it by me again.

Originally posted by Syren
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What is your point, Whirly? Just run it by me again.

Do we get to much hate speak, do the debates in the GDF degenerate into flaming to quickly. Would a different set of Guidelines help?

The Forums are fine as far as I can see. The Globals can take care of any problem that the GDF and others run across. Although the point you are trying to get across is a good one. It is Overall Futile. Only the members with enough sense not to do those things would take the time to read them all, completely defeating the purpose. The GDF can get rowdy at times. After all it is basically a debate forum, and people will disagree with others. I think More Warnings need to be sent out to those who don't respect one another's opinion.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Do we get to much hate speak, do the debates in the GDF degenerate into flaming to quickly. Would a different set of Guidelines help?

Yes, yes and probably 😄

But it would also remove the comfortable atmosphere we have. Regardless of the minority of members who are determined to bring every discussion to its knees, KMC is generally a friendly forum where most of us feel able to state opinions and partake in a mature discussion. Don't you think that tightening the regulations we already have would perhaps turn KMC into an inaccessible forum? There's a fine line there, if we could make the rules more strict and still retain the forum's current level of openness then great. But I find it hard to believe it's possible 😬

Originally posted by Syren
Yes, yes and probably 😄

But it would also remove the comfortable atmosphere we have. Regardless of the minority of members who are determined to bring every discussion to its knees, KMC is generally a friendly forum where most of us feel able to state opinions and partake in a mature discussion. Don't you think that tightening the regulations we already have would perhaps turn KMC into an inaccessible forum? There's a fine line there, if we could make the rules more strict and still retain the forum's current level of openness then great. But I find it hard to believe it's possible 😬

As I said I agree with you but a number of people are constantly critical, so I thought unlike most of these type of threads add a possible alternative.

The Current State of KMC

shit

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
As I said I agree with you but a number of people are constantly critical, so I thought unlike most of these type of threads add a possible alternative.

Hmm, I suggest a permanent ban for all intentionally obnoxious idiots. Not including myself of course eyes

7. No Hate Speech.

10. additional - Hate speech is not allowed.

You Repeated yourself... yes I read everything.

I have never herd of ANYBODY being offended by Gore.

In My Opinion, If they come to a forum where Movies are Discussed, and Kill Bill was Rated 13, And you saw somebody LITERLY drowning ina pool of blood, Gore is NOT an isssue.

13. No Spoilers

Thats why we have Spoiler Tags.

2. If you receive no response, or you find the response not to your satisfaction,

Not To Your Satisfaction? Thats Bull.

"Moderator X - I am Sorry"
"Member X - Sorry Doesn't Cut it."

AnyWrong DoingBy an Appointed Mod should eb delt with Raz Directly.

PLUS That entire Mod not acting good os totally off, Becasue all a Mod can be sayniog is "Don'T do that mister" And the member goes wild becasue she hates authority.

I don't even know who you are to Suggest such things.

This is PG 13, When is the last time you saw a PG 13 movie that resembled Teletubie Land?

I say Gore is permissable, And Appropriate Swear (not to much Example of too much being "Fvck You You mother Fvcking Fvcker"

Is allwoed, this is PG 13 and NOT "Familly Friendly"

IF anybody is offended, Well, Revert back to the V chip. NEVER have I herd anybody complain about gore, Yes for swearing, but only in the bove case.

This is, First and Formost a Movie Discussion Board.

I'm not sure I see the point of this thread.

We already have a set of rules that suit us fine.

Originally posted by Raz
I'm not sure I see the point of this thread.

We already have a set of rules that suit us fine.

However a fair bit of hate speak goes on on KMC particularly about ethnic minorities Raz this worries me.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
However a fair bit of hate speak goes on on KMC particularly about ethnic minorities Raz this worries me.

Where?...when? ....are you lying?....yes!

I read half and went to eat popcorn and now I read the other happen. Good points in some of the rules, and most of that is in the kmc rules already but I think you went in detail.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Where?...when? ....are you lying?....yes!

Not in my opinion Bardock

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
I read half and went to eat popcorn and now I read the other happen. Good points in some of the rules, and most of that is in the kmc rules already but I think you went in detail.

thank you - It's the rules on "hate speak" I think KMC would benefit from!

What is Pg13 exactly. I think should be more in detail because 15 threads I see does not look pg13 but mods post in it lol.

Whirly, you should put examples and stuff(like where do you see the speeches) and what forums.