But the quote is talking about Grievous being the strongest apprentice at the beginning of the Clone Wars. And besides, didn't he fight Durge and Asajj 2 on 1 and win? And if he wasn't the strongest why would he be be the General instead of Asajj or Sora? I think between Asajj or Sora it'd be close and likely would even say Sora could take him if it wern't for what it said about Grievous in LOE.
Originally posted by darthsith19
1. Darth Sidious
2. Yoda
3. Mace Windu
4. Anakin (ROTS)
5. Darth Tyranus
6. Obi-Wan (ROTS)
7. Darth Vader (ROTS, before getting injured)
8. Plo Koon
9. Luminara Unduli
10. Sora Bulq
11. Depa Billaba
12. Cin Drallig
13. General grievous
14. Quinlan Vos
15. Asajj Ventress
16. Kit Fisto
17. The dark Jedi that hangs out with Asajj in Clone Wars Volume 6 (I think it's called on the battle fields or something like that).
18. Ki-Adi-Mudni
19. J'ai Maruk
20. Neeja Hylcron (the dude from Jedi Trail)
You mean Skorr? He's not as good as Ki-Adi-Mundi. Plus, I think Assaj and Fisto are better than Quinlan, but that's my opinion. 🙂
Originally posted by Council#13
You mean Skorr? He's not as good as Ki-Adi-Mundi. Plus, I think Assaj and Fisto are better than Quinlan, but that's my opinion. 🙂
Yeah... Depa and Asajj behind Plo... well, I think Depa is for sure, I mean, I know in Shatterpoint it says of all the Jedi only Mace could defeat her in a fight but I think that's hyperbole, I mean, surely at least Yoda could beat her, right? And at the end of the book Mace defeated her even when he wasn't trying to win, she still collapsed from stress and that was when Mace was recovering from bad injuries, too. The TPM novel states that Qui-Gon is Mace's rival (yea, that's referring to TPM Mace but still) and Plo seems to be slightly stronger than Qui-Gon during the Stark Hyperspace Wars, so that's where I get Plo's power from. I think Qui-Gon's pretty strong, so...
Originally posted by darthsith19
Yes, Skorr. He beat Quinlan Vos in "The Dreadnaughts of Rendili" so I think he could take Mundi. He seeems to be much more physical than Mundi is and has exprience fighting Jedi (maybe not alot but some). As for Kit being betetr than Quinlan, yeah right, ROTS proved that Mace is [b]FAR stronger than Kit but when he fought Sora he wasn't that much stronger and Quinlan managed to beat Sora. Quinlan's far stronegr than Kit physically (just look at his arms) and he even survived Order 66, eventually he killed Tol Skorr and Sora Bulq. I don't know what Kit ever did to make him that great. But maybe I should edit my order a little. here's my new top 20:
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Skorr is also later beaten by Vos later during the Siege of Salucemi (sp). According to Quinlan, he was "tired and not trying to kill Skorr", although that latter part may have been just for the heck of making Quinlan look better. As for the part of surviving the Purge, Quinlan was not fighting a Sith Lord that was equal to Master Yoda in lightsaber combat and more powerful in terms of the Force. Now, I can't argue about him killing Sora Bulq; that was quite an accomplishment, although he had some help in beating him from Aayla; she managed to clear his mind of emotions.
Originally posted by Council#13
Skorr is also later beaten by Vos later during the Siege of Salucemi (sp). According to Quinlan, he was "tired and not trying to kill Skorr", although that latter part may have been just for the heck of making Quinlan look better. As for the part of surviving the Purge, Quinlan was not fighting a Sith Lord that was equal to Master Yoda in lightsaber combat and more powerful in terms of the Force. Now, I can't argue about him killing Sora Bulq; that was quite an accomplishment, although he had some help in beating him from Aayla; she managed to clear his mind of emotions.
Originally posted by darthsith19
I know Vos later beats Skorr but still the fact remains that Skorr once beat Vos. Anbd of course Quinlan was trying to kill Skorr when he killed him during the Siege of Salucemi, he [b]hated Skorr. And you realise that your excuse about why Kit is betetr than Vos is very poor, perhaps you misread or didn't understand what I said? The bottom line is Vos has proiven himself to not be far behind Mace while Kit proved himself vastly insuperior in ROTS, [/B]
Then obviously he was simply making excuses. But in the end, Skorr was defeated by Vos, just as Dooku was defeated by Anakin. I can't remember what my arguement was for Kit. Could you remind me please?
Originally posted by Council#13
Then obviously he was simply making excuses. But in the end, Skorr was defeated by Vos, just as Dooku was defeated by Anakin. I can't remember what my arguement was for Kit. Could you remind me please?
Hmmm you put up a tough and persuasive argument. I sincerely doubt that Mace would bring along Vos to arrest Palpatine, probably because of Quinlan had too much darkness within him. Another reason why he might not bring Vos along even if he were on Coruscant was because he might think that Vos is not skilled enough to bring Sidious down. Of course, when K'Kruhk was trying to protect Viento, he placed Quinlan in a list with Dooku and Bulq of failed Jedi. True, it is far from possible that Kit would fail to defeat Sora Bulq. But are you stating that Vos would have survived if he had fought alongside Mace? Getting back on topic, Quinlan did have help from Aayla to beat Sora. She helped him calm down. I know that sounded stupid, but without her help, do you think he would have won?