The Top Ten Jedi/Sith in the Clone Wars

Originally posted by GM Nebaris
That was in regards to Yoda Kamikz.

Like I said. In Dark Rendezvous (which is as valid canon as CW), Mace Windu himself says to Chancellor Palpatine that "he is not Yoda's equal in peace or war".

Yoda > Windu.

Originally posted by Escape81
You say so. But, as I said before, your opinion = not very valuable.

Why didn't he use it on Palpatine when he went to arrest him?

He had one arm left, and if he is as powerful as you say, he would've deflected it with ease, conquered the pain, killed Palpatine, and went medieval on Anakin.

But *gasp* he didn't!

LMAO
Now you're just being silly.

Originally posted by Escape81
Like I said. In Dark Rendezvous (which is as valid canon as CW), Mace Windu himself says to Chancellor Palpatine that "he is not Yoda's equal in peace or war".

Yoda > Windu.

Mace Windu was humble. Yoda was clearly arrogant.

Narraration states Yoda's stronger than Mace

Mace displayes greater power then both Yoda and Sidious imo. 'Narraration' isn't going to convince me otherwise.

Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Mace Windu was humble. Yoda was clearly arrogant.

ROFL!!!!!

That is the absolute poorest argument that I have ever seen.

Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Mace displayes greater power then both Yoda and Sidious imo. 'Narraration' isn't going to convince me otherwise.

He does neither.

Sidious > Windu.
Yoda > Windu.

Deal with it.

Originally posted by Escape81
He does neither.

Sidious > Windu.
Yoda > Windu.

Deal with it.

Windu defeated Sidious.
Sidious defeated Yoda.

Windu > Yoda/Sidious.

Deal with it.

Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Windu defeated Sidious.
Sidious defeated Yoda.

Windu > Yoda/Sidious.

Deal with it.

Rofl.

Windu managed to defeat Palpatine in a lightsaber-to-lightsaber confrontation where Palpatine could have been restraining himself.

Yoda and Sidious stalemated.

Get over yourself. The databank and several other sources, as well as Windu's own testimony disagree with you.

Originally posted by Escape81
Rofl.

Windu managed to defeat Palpatine in a lightsaber-to-lightsaber confrontation where Palpatine could have been restraining himself.

Yoda and Sidious stalemated.

Get over yourself. The databank and several other sources, as well as Windu's own testimony disagree with you.

ROFL?

1. Windu defeated Sidious in a saber duel, and also was able to match Sidious raw power in the force with his defence, hence Sidious' deformed face.

2. While Yoda and Sidious displayed equal skill, Sidious still defeated him.

Windu won in a saber fight (where as Escape said Sids might have restrained himself). If Sids used the force he would win. Here are some major factors to what happened when Sidious used the force....

His face wasn't deformed, it revealed his "true" face, his dark side face. Seriousley, lightning doesn't make your voice deeper and doesn't turn your eyes yellow....

Sidious was in one heck of a disadvantage at that place. He was lying down against a wall with Windu right above him, Windu had a clear advantage....

Sidious stopped because he wanted Anakin to act, not because he was tired (which he clearly wasn't). If you watch carefully, you can see that Mace hand is hit by the lightning just at the end before Sidious stopped, if Sidious would continue Mace would have lost balance with the saber and only had 1/2 his strenght to hold it with, he would be overpowered. Sidious stopped as I said, because he wanted Anakin to act, if he wasn't there Mace would have died.....

Top 10:
1. Sidious
2. Yoda
3. Mace
4. Anakin/Vader (ROTS)
5. Tyranus
6. Obi-Wan (ROTS)
7. Cin Drallig
8. General Grievous (pre-injuries)
9. Sora Bulq
10. Luminara Unduli or Obesssion Asajj (not sure there)

Just Jedi:
1 Yoda
2. Mace
3. Anakin (ROTS)
4. Obi-Wan (ROTS)
5. Cin Drallig
6. Luminara Unduli
7. Plo Koon
8. Quinlan Vos
9. Ki-Adi-Mundi
10. Kit Fisto/Shaak Ti

I would say:
1. Yoda
2. Sidious
3. Count Dooku/Mace Windu
4. Count Dooku/Mace Windu
5. Anakin Skywalker
6. Obi-Wan Kenobi
7. Assaj Ventress
8. Cin Drallig
9. Plo Koon
10. Sora Bulq

That would be my ideal list, however I am a bit hazy on the strength of characters after Obi-Wan.

^I'd agree, but Bulq should be a bit higher. Depa should be there too.

Just Jedi who never fall to the darkside:
1. Mace Windu
2. Yoda.
3. Obi-Wan Kenobi.
4. Luminara Unduli.
5. Plo Koon.
6. Kit Fisto.
7. Cin Drallig.
8. Master Tholme.
9. Tsui Chou.
10. Quinlan Vos.

This is just off the top of my head, I'm sure there are jedi that I've missed.

My list.

1. Yoda/Sidious.
2. Yoda/Sidious.
3. Mace. (Anakin could challenge him though)
4. Anakin.
5. Dooku.
6. Obi-Wan.
7. Depa.
8. Grievous.
9. Cin.
10. Sora.

You put Cin above Sora?

I just watched the fight scene. Ki-Adi-Mundi was the only person to attempt to forcepush him, and he missed. Shaak Ti telekenetically threw some rubble at him, but he dealt with it with his saber. And Vious you claim to be a swords expert right? If you were, you would know that Shaak Ti fended off Grievous far better then Mundi did.

Edit - Oops, wrong thread.

Originally posted by GM Nebaris
You put Cin above Sora?

Well yeah, since Sora got beaten by Quinlan Vos. But I'm don't know if that was luck or anything, I might change just those two, but else I'm fine with the list....

1. Mace Windu.
2. Master Yoda.
3. Darth Sidious.
4. Count Dooku.
5. Anakin Skywalker.
6. Obi-Wan Kenobi.
7. Luminara Unduli.
8. Depa Billaba.
9. Plo Koon.
10. Sora Bulq.