Originally posted by Jose123Sure spidey can dodge but for how long and how is running away give spidey the win ? Also the martial arts master and experience thats stated in his bio..
No he's not the flash but he is faster than Wolverine.he can dodge the blows thanks to the spider sense.
Spidey doesn't even have to use both hands. The little guy doesn't way much by comic standards.
Batman for examble is stronger than I dn shiva but shiva has mroe skills and whoops his as stime to time.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXIn another comic he flicked him away, and wolverine still couldn't move... the inertia would be too much and his skeleton would make little difference against concussive force to begin with.
you said hit and run right ? How is hit and run going to beat wolverine. Spidey gave wolverine a barage of hits and said he gives everything he got but wolvie smilies... so how isa punch here then run and then another punch there going to give him the win ?
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Sure spidey can dodge but for how long and how is running away give spidey the win ?
who said anything about running away?
Wolverine:"RaWARRRR Im' the best their is at whay I do"
Spidey: I don;t have time for this. I got to get home to have butsekks with my wife.
dodge dodge grab throw.
match over.
ok
spiderman hits harder than wolverine
VERY hard
so pretend he isnt pulling his punches, ie, he is breaking concrete and smashing down steel doors. 15 tonnes isnt it?
wolverine will FEEL that. Spiderman lands 4 of these hits, + a kick or 2 during an attack from ABOVE that wolverine has almost no defence against
are you stupid enough to think that spiderman is going to let wolvie get within a foot of him
he will just repeatedly jump over 6' (way higher than wolvie can slash) and do the kick thing. He could seriously just jump circles around wolverine
now, why cant wolverine hit spiderman at this close combat:
1) Spiderman is larger. a longer range. a kick from spiderman comes at a range farther than wolvie can reach
2) Spiderman is moving FASTER than wolverine can. so as wolverine is recoving and getting ready to attack the spiderman who just landed behind him, he is already jumping over his head again
3) This is the most important one, so pay close attention. the SPIDER SENSE! which is capable of dodging BULLETS from nearly POINT BLANK range. This is a subconsious instinctual reaction. So, spidey goes to kick wolvie, wolvie realizes this and, since he cant reach spider man decides to try and attack his leg, ie, a wounding blow (his ONLY hope in this fight, but hey, the wolvie fans obviously understand those type of fight dynamics) spiderman's sense goes off and he pulls the kick back, BEFORE wolverine can even throw slash that would have hit it.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
So you go run in infront of a guy with a knife and then dodge it(very good) now pick him up high enough and get the momentum to throw him and not get stabbed.
you dont understand mobility as a technique in a fight obviously
spiderman would NEVER be infront of wolvie
thats the point we are making
ok
please explain to me HOW wolverine hits spiderman, in light of:
Originally posted by inamilist
1) Spiderman is larger. a longer range. a kick from spiderman comes at a range farther than wolvie can reach2) Spiderman is moving FASTER than wolverine can. so as wolverine is recoving and getting ready to attack the spiderman who just landed behind him, he is already jumping over his head again
3) This is the most important one, so pay close attention. the SPIDER SENSE! which is capable of dodging BULLETS from nearly POINT BLANK range. This is a subconsious instinctual reaction. So, spidey goes to kick wolvie, wolvie realizes this and, since he cant reach spider man decides to try and attack his leg, ie, a wounding blow (his ONLY hope in this fight, but hey, the wolvie fans obviously understand those type of fight dynamics) spiderman's sense goes off and he pulls the kick back, BEFORE wolverine can even throw slash that would have hit it.
ok, i gave 3 very good reasons as to why wolverine cannot hit spidey
you have yet to give one reason as to why wolverine wins, aside from, he is the best
the is a differance between opinion and fact, fact here shown through the precidence in comics
Spiderman has gone toe to toe with the X-men on several occasions, wolvie included
please see my thread about mobility and hero balance
Oh so spidey can beat cyclops,Rogue, and Storm now at the same time....
Yes spidey can dodge but not forever and how is dodging giving him the win ? If he picks him up he will get stabbed while he is getting touched by spidey if you want spidey stops what he is doing and not throws anymore but how does spidey win ? Spidey wins because of agility(how the hell does agility knock out wolverine.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Oh so spidey can beat cyclops,Rogue, and Storm now at the same time....Yes spidey can dodge but not forever and how is dodging giving him the win ? If he picks him up he will get stabbed while he is getting touched by spidey if you want spidey stops what he is doing and not throws anymore but how does spidey win ? Spidey wins because of agility(how the hell does agility knock out wolverine.
He has done it.
Like I said spidey has dodged faster things then the claws.
spidey takes this 7/10
So you say he could beat all those three at the same time. I smell fanboy. Also
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
While very very important, agility or mobility will not play such an important part in a fight against someone that is his superior in the Strength and Durability department. Spiderman knocking Hulk out with a truck? Puh-lease. That smells of PIS so badly you need to cover your nose.The logic is this: Someone with a durability and strength level like Colossus or Hulk or Thing should never lose to Spidey in a battle to the end. Why? Because while sure, it would be very hard for them to even touch him, let alone hit him, none of his hits or attacks should ever be effective on them either. So it's like this:
1. He's got awesome mobility and agility, but if he's concentrating fully on dodging ALL of the hits, then he'll only be defending himself, so no offense. Therefore, at one point both of them become tired, probably Spiderman first because he's exerting more energy jumping all over the place, and then one single hit from the opponent or maybe two would put him out.
2. If he's not concentrating fully on dodging ALL of the hits, then he'll also be leaving himself open. Let's say he gets 10 hits in on the opponent, and the opponent gets one. That's enough to either daze, or take him out. Even if he's just dazed, that makes it that much harder to concentrate, so 5 minutes later he'll get let's say 7 hits in and the other guy gets 2 or 3 hits on him. And the match is over.
You understand? Mobility and agility are both very important, but if there's a huge gap between the level of his strength/durability and his opponents', then it means he'll lose.
The agility won't balance out the huge gap. It'll try, but it won't. Not when the gap is that big. Against let's say Luke Cage, yeah, i agree, but even then, with the whole unbreakable skin thing.....well.....but anyway, you get my point.
Congrats on making a great thread though 🙂