Originally posted by TheKahn
Does anyone know to what extent SS has the ability to transmute elements and affect molecules. I know he can but I don't know how strong that ability is. Aside from the Flash (speed force) WW (olympian magic) and Superman (super aura) could SS just turn the rest into lead just as the fight starts?
It depends on which version of the Surfer you are reading, really.
The only fair fight goes like this: Pre-Crisis JLA vs modern age SS.
That would end in a draw. Any other configuration ends with SS agonizing for 16 panels over why he had to destroy such noble beings etc etc.
Come on, man. Power COSMIC. He could take out the entire GL corps without breaking a sweat. He's the Silver Surfer. The guy who is boring because he's so powerful. He can fly through the freaking sun! He can hear an asteroid collision in nearby solar systems. He was the foremost herald of Galactus. How can you think the JLA has a chance against SS?
Originally posted by DOOM2099
It depends on which version of the Surfer you are reading, really.The only fair fight goes like this: Pre-Crisis JLA vs modern age SS.
That would end in a draw. Any other configuration ends with SS agonizing for 16 panels over why he had to destroy such noble beings etc etc.
Come on, man. Power COSMIC. He could take out the entire GL corps without breaking a sweat. He's the Silver Surfer. The guy who is boring because he's so powerful. He can fly through the freaking sun! He can hear an asteroid collision in nearby solar systems. He was the foremost herald of Galactus. How can you think the JLA has a chance against SS?
Surfer winning is not a given but certainly possible. I suggest after trading some blows he appears weak, draws them in, then releases a single burst of antimatter.
Or he just starts off stopping time. Then he can have his way with Diana before annihilating everyone with antimatter.
Good thing Batman wasnt included in this mix.
Originally posted by DOOM2099
It depends on which version of the Surfer you are reading, really.The only fair fight goes like this: Pre-Crisis JLA vs modern age SS.
That would end in a draw. Any other configuration ends with SS agonizing for 16 panels over why he had to destroy such noble beings etc etc.
Come on, man. Power COSMIC. He could take out the entire GL corps without breaking a sweat. He's the Silver Surfer. The guy who is boring because he's so powerful. He can fly through the freaking sun! He can hear an asteroid collision in nearby solar systems. He was the foremost herald of Galactus. How can you think the JLA has a chance against SS?
Originally posted by thesilverspider
Why is flash being looked at as the biggest threat when his power is speed and surfer has plenty of that.
If Fate were here, Surfer would lose 9/10, but since he isn't, Surfer could beat the JLA 5/10.
It just depends.
I honestly don't see how someone with the godly speed feats of Surfer CAN'T win. It's not necessarily fair, or necessarily a good thing... But even Flash needs to build up momentum. He doesn't START at 3 million x light speed. Surfer, however, does. (if not exactly that, he's always in "galaxy crossing" mode...) He searched the ENTIRE earth in the span of a single sentence. He reacted to a scream from light years away, again in mere seconds. His reactions have been stated to take nanoseconds. Flash is fast. Surfer starts out a LOT faster.
That said, Supes is blasted with kryptonite radiation, Flash's head is torn off, Manhunter is disintegrated before he can think to become intangible, and Wonderwoman is just blasted into submission.
Surfer is underrated a lot, surprisingly enough. In a heads up fight, pretty much anyone that he has the capacity to kill will be killed, because he's way the hell too fast to really be challenged by even most other speedsters. I don't think he's truly EVER been used to capacity, because he can simply do WAY too much.