Silver surfer vs Justice leaugue

Great post Uni. I myself don't like to bring up a ridiculously powerful version of Supes. What choice does one have when people bring up ridiculously overpowered versions of characters they like?

I agree with most of your post, but that is what people bring to the table here.

The one thing I semi disagree is LT's position, as the basic all knowing guy of Marvel, seeing Thanos assembling such a powerful artifact should have set off a red flag, don't you think? He should be able to see the future and many alternate realities.

Then letting him get the HOTU was even worse, you don't let a convicted child molester around your kids... why not just strip Thanos of his powers?

To answer your question about where T-VO came from, it's actually a kryptonian battle technique. Thing is, Krypton went the path of science so it was rarely ever used since there was no real need for it.

The first time Erads battled Supes even he (erad) admitted he was not
a fighter since that was not normal on krypton.

Originally posted by kgkg
SS knowing gladiator's weakness (SS could have been lying) doesn't mean he used CA to find out. This is no proof

detecting ration weakness and such is no biggie. [/QUOTE]

detecting radiation across the universe is not the same as detecting someone's weakness.
Also, SS can not munipulate every being's molecules. No writer will have SS able to munipulate Gladiator's molecules. Even so it doesn't prove that he can spot someone's weakness by his CA.

Originally posted by h1a8

detecting radiation across the universe is not the same as detecting someone's weakness.
Also, SS can not munipulate every being's molecules. No writer will have SS able to munipulate Gladiator's molecules. Even so it doesn't prove that he can spot someone's weakness by his CA. [/B]

SS has and i have posted scan of SS effecting 1000 of cells ( of different organism constantly and the same time.

he can easily scan all the cells in glads body and he has CA he can immediately tell what will stop him

"no write will have SS able to munipulate" it has been done so it's a power that ss can do here

Originally posted by kgkg
hmm
actually no

SS has and i have posted scan of SS effecting 1000 of cells ( of different organism constantly and the same time.

he can easily scan all the cells in glads body and he has CA he can immediately tell what will stop him

"no write will have SS able to munipulate" it has been done so it's a power that ss can do here

"he can easily scan all the cells in glads body and he has CA he can immediately tell what will stop him"

That is garbage.
Effecting cells doesnt imply the ability to find radiation weakness in them.
Bad logic.
Stop making up things.
The point is that SS has not ever been shown to find someone's weakness by scanning their body. In comics, it is not acceptible to assume that one has a certain power or ability if it hasn't been shown or is not logically connected to another power or ability.

surfer dude all the way

Originally posted by diabloman
surfer dude all the way

Did you read the rest of the thread? SS has little chance.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Great post Uni. I myself don't like to bring up a ridiculously powerful version of Supes. What choice does one have when people bring up ridiculously overpowered versions of characters they like?

I agree with most of your post, but that is what people bring to the table here.

The one thing I semi disagree is LT's position, as the basic all knowing guy of Marvel, seeing Thanos assembling such a powerful artifact should have set off a red flag, don't you think? He should be able to see the future and many alternate realities.

Then letting him get the HOTU was even worse, you don't let a convicted child molester around your kids... why not just strip Thanos of his powers?

To answer your question about where T-VO came from, it's actually a kryptonian battle technique. Thing is, Krypton went the path of science so it was rarely ever used since there was no real need for it.

The first time Erads battled Supes even he (erad) admitted he was not
a fighter since that was not normal on krypton.

You know Avalon, after reading your (and other's) posts and the points you've brought up I have reconsidered my opinion. It really isn't fair for me to argue in favor of the Surfer winning using an uber interpretation of him and not doing the same for the JLA team. I'm starting to lean towards Leo's view on fights, that you should only use the most consistent version of characters in fights.

That being said, I'm switching over to the JLA and saying that they take the majority. While theoretically I think the Surfer might be able to win if his powers were extrapolated to their fullest potential, he just isn't depicted that way enough of the time, imo (ie using high-end matter manipulation in battle or obvious speed blitzing).

The PIS of T-Vo, Godwave, and Speed Force >>> PIS of power cosmic.

Originally posted by Eternity
Silver surfer vs Superman flash Hawk girl WW MM Aquaman steel

Whether you use their most common battle performances, or their most powerful, IMO it doesn't matter...just as long as you balance the equation on both sides.

The Silver Surfer is my main man: unique, noble and powerful, and I say he wins against any one of them with submaximal effort. But to beat the combined and orchestrated might of Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Martian Manhunter...

JLA > SS 7/10