Originally posted by Psycho Ninja
dvampire is right........Well, Flash & Supez isnt the one who got drained by the likes of DR.DOOM !!!
And, yeah, show me a scan with proove that SS can avoid kinetic energy absorbtion !!!
See what I'm saying.
Simply, Surfer's control over KE is greater than Flash's, hell, I'd bet SS could steal Flash's speed by doing the turtle on him.
SS once absorbed kinetic enegy from psycho man I believe. He has complete control over any energy.
Some characters are just that uber. SS can steal speed as easily as Flash, but doesn't need t o do it and isn't written to do it because it's not his premere power. Just like Strange, even though Strange's telekinesis isn't used often, it's assumed it's not very powerful. But, in the god cable vs Strange fight, I showed a scan of Strange actually moving a medium sized moon with TK alone.
Originally posted by HigH ScholaR& that WAS a cheapshot 'Seid used. Surfer was watching Orion and 'Seid shot him in the back. I would've done the same though. When you're fighting for your planet against almost impossible odds, you do whatever it takes and fight dirty as possible.
you tried to soil the ss respect thread to no availhttp://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5721985#post5721985
Originally posted by brainchild81
& that WAS a cheapshot 'Seid used. Surfer was watching Orion and 'Seid shot him in the back. I would've done the same though. When you're fighting for your planet against almost impossible odds, you do whatever it takes and fight dirty as possible.
Bull.
DS spoke a whole sentence to him before blasting him.
When you supposedly have 300x light speed, there shouldn't be a such thing as "cheap shots."
Originally posted by long pigFlash stole the kinetic energy of the planet and everything on it.
Prove Superman can break a cats neck. We know he can because he has the power to do it, it's just the situation never arrived that forced him to do it.See what I'm saying.
Simply, Surfer's control over KE is greater than Flash's, hell, I'd bet SS could steal Flash's speed by doing the turtle on him.
SS once absorbed kinetic enegy from psycho man I believe. He has complete control over any energy.
Some characters are just that uber. SS can steal speed as easily as Flash, but doesn't need t o do it and isn't written to do it because it's not his premere power. Just like Strange, even though Strange's telekinesis isn't used often, it's assumed it's not very powerful. But, in the god cable vs Strange fight, I showed a scan of Strange actually moving a medium sized moon with TK alone.
Originally posted by Mider
SS beating the entire JLA is dumb i mean beating superman thats logical but the entire JLA give me a break.
Did you read who was on JLA roster
Silver Surfer will eat MM, Aquaman, Hawkgirl,steel alive their dead with in 5 sec. Superman and Wonder Woman are the only ones that have a slight chance, SS can do so many things to superman it wouldn't be funny, wonder woman her durability to energy blast is not that great. The Flash will get suck into a black hole and by the time he comes back JLA will be in the hospital recovering from their ass whooping.
Silver Surfer to full potenttial 7/10 or 8/10
I think that if written to his full potential SS would be like a mini-Galactus. Now the as said above the JLA is kind of shortchanged by the fact that they have some near-human memebers in this fight.
The only ones who would concern me are Flash, Superman, and WonderWoman. Against thoes three I'll give majority to SS and here is why: WW doesn't have the durabiltiy to take alot of shots from SS, Superman can either have the energy drained from his body or SS could just amp up his body to even greater strength and duke it out with Superman, and then there is the Flash. Now I'll assume for the sake of arguement that no one is draining anyone elses speed. SS could just turn the Flash (along with just about everyone else in the JLA team) into lead or something with his transmutation power. Superman and WW might be protected thanks his aura and her devine orgins. SS has the tools to take them down.
Originally posted by Juntai
The fact is, they don't need to slow Surfer down, that was just an option someone threw out... all they have to do is have Flash extend his aura over the team, share his speed and pull them into the speedforce, Flash's speedfeats spank anyones, and he can share it.
Also, there is no proof that Surfer can even fight at those speeds.
I give the character his credit, he travels fast through space, but then again, I've seen Galvatron, Starscream, and plenty of other Transformers do the same.
Doesn't mean they can fight at light speed.
Also, Thanos has easily beat SS physically. No fancy tricks.
Combined, all of these guys will murder him.
Originally posted by Juntai😆 Everybody says that until somebody cracks them in the back of the head w/an aluminum bat. You guys are something, you don't seem to wanna hear anything that makes a DC character seem less than godly. 'seid shot SS in the back. That's all there is to it. I'd have done the same thing, but a shot in the back is still a shot in the back.
And about the dirty fighting.
There is no such thing.
I fight to win.
Period.
While i give Norrin a distinct majority one on one against any GL ('cept for Sentinel where he splits even or gets a slight majority, or Ion where he loses more often than not), if any GL ('cept really jobbing ones) is present at all in the League's lineup, the League would win 8.5/10.
But if you field a JLA team with 3 bricks, 2 of which has exploitable weaknesses thats right up to the Surfer's alley, a speedster with slightly above human level durability, and 2 . . . . eh cannon fodder, thats not going to cut it.
The JLA needs a GL that could match the Surfer's energy projection, contain him or distract him long enough for the bricks to get their shots in.