Spider-Man 4 Discussion

Started by Nemesis X419 pages

I've been hearing that Swarm will appear in a Spider-Man movie. I hope that isn't true.

I highly doubt that.

But, I know I'd love to see Carnage. I know it 100% won't happen but it'd be nice to see him brought to the big screen and be presented as more than a superpowered Joker clone.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
I've been hearing that Swarm will appear in a Spider-Man movie. I hope that isn't true.

i heard that swarm, taskmaster, modok will appear as well

Originally posted by Davis Bloome
I highly doubt that.

But, I know I'd love to see Carnage. I know it 100% won't happen but it'd be nice to see him brought to the big screen and be presented as more than a superpowered Joker clone.

If they have Carnage in a Spider-Man flick, then it should probably be rated R. See Carnage at his best.

It doesn't have to be rated R for us to see Carnage at his best. TDK wasn't rated R and it pushed the limit quite a bit.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i heard that swarm, taskmaster, modok will appear as well

MODOK would be funny...just to see a floating personal with a giant head. Not sure i've heard of Taskmaster before. And i vaguely remember swarm - i haven't been up to date with the current Spider-Man time line.

Originally posted by Davis Bloome
It doesn't have to be rated R for us to see Carnage at his best. TDK wasn't rated R and it pushed the limit quite a bit.

In order to show Carnage at his best they would have to crank the rating up a bit, maybe to a 15 or at least a 12A (here in Britain anyway - not sure about American rating system, 13A and 16?)...

But i do have to agree, some of the stuff in Dark Knight really pushed the boundaries. Heath Ledger was the best movie representation of Joker i've seen and he was true to the character - shame he died, he could've been an amazing reoccurring character - Jack Nickleson and the guy that played Joker in Adam West's Batman film were shameful, and more laughable then twisted and insane...especially Adam West's Joker lol

Jack Nicholson's Joker is shameful? That's a laughable statement right there.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
I've been hearing that Swarm will appear in a Spider-Man movie. I hope that isn't true.

Whats wrong with swarm ??

he's a good villain.

Originally posted by Davis Bloome
Jack Nicholson's Joker is shameful? That's a laughable statement right there.

did you honestly like Jack Nicholson's Joker? I can't stand it, made me cringe...

Yes, I did, and billions of others did as well. Whether you like the performance or not, he set a standard that was not topped until Heath Ledger stepped on the scene. Whether you love or hate his performance, he had the best comic book villain portrayal until Heath's Joker came on the scene. But, some people don't have any respect for true acting.

yes, your right...

until Heath Ledger stepped up to the challenge i did think Nicholson's portrayal was good-ish (still thought it was extremely eccentric) but there was only the Joker from Adam West's batman to compare with...

and when Ledger took the role so seriously and did everything he could to make it feel as much like the comic as possible, he definitely set the standard. And, like you, I think if Ledger hadn't taken the role, Nicholson still would be what most people thought the Joker was like - even though Nicholson himself resents the role, and never talks about it.

Edit: And if Bale hadn't taken the role of Batman, i'm sure people would still associate the role with Michael Keaton...

Nicholson doesn't resent the role, but I'm sure, like anyone, he wants to hear about different peices of his work and not just one movie all the time. However, I thought Nicholson did a great job of portraying a Joker that was a prankster but still pretty damn dangerous. The only fault I found with his Joker was he was absolutely no match for Batman.

With Ledger's Joker, he actually could whoop someone's ass or crush skulls. He was also extremely dangerous, and he had more dark humor, which is what I love to see.

Btw, a funny fact is that "[i]Batman (1989)[/i}" was the highest grossing Batman movie until TDK came around. It took the appearance of the Joker again for B('89) to finally be surpassed in terms of money. I suspect the same will happen this time around.

Ive been out of the loop for a while, is their going to be a SP4? =S

Originally posted by Evil SeeD
Ive been out of the loop for a while, is their going to be a SP4? =S

Think so yeah...coming 2011 i think

Same cast ?

Originally posted by Evil SeeD
Same cast ?

yeah same cast

Thats awsome, they need to make up for 3, a complete flop compared to the first 2, even with the (horrible) introduction of Venom, and what (little) screen time they gave him.

I would even be for them completely re-doing the 3rd, just like the Hulk was remade to make up for the mistake of the first one.

Anyways, any word on villains and such? It really has been a while since Ive read anything on this. Work has taken over my life. =(

Re-doing Spiderman 3 wouldn't be a bad idea...

The villains for Spiderman 4 haven't been confirmed yet, but Raimi expressed interest in Morbius. It's likely that the Lizard will be in Spiderman 4, too.

Raimi said he was thinking about Morbius, not that he was going to include him.

I wouldn't mind Morbius, but I'd prefer either the Lizard, Hobgoblin, & Electro.

Originally posted by Davis Bloome
Raimi said he was thinking about Morbius, not that he was going to include him.

I wouldn't mind Morbius, but I'd prefer either the Lizard, Hobgoblin, & Electro.

Electro may work if written well