GOKU and SUPERMAN

Originally posted by dvampire
What do you mean every version?

Anyways, I'm only using Post-Crisis Superman.

I have all the DBZ epsoides and manga. 🙂

If you want, I could post scans from the manga. 🙂

I mean if superman goes all out and goes crazy with heat vission then yes it should eat people but goku can do a quick Kamehameha blast to counter it and yes the kamehamehas been from earth all the way to the sun which is a while and pretty quick. Also well the only heat feats oku shown was one when he was with the vampire girlson snake way and he was in the bath and they said it would of melted normal men(this is goku befor ehe got training from king kia(the weakest goku) I forget how hot it was...unless that was a filler ep...then another one is goku on Namek when he was sjj and the barrier was up and swiped away namek lava(god knows how hot namek lava is but the planet is the biggest planet and how many suns around it because it's always day) . Then tehre is when freiza beat on him and through him in the lava without a barrir and then people thought he died because the earths magma(hotter than lava) from the core busted out on goku..but duh he is ssj so he didn't die at all. There are many and better others but eh I need to watch eps again..I will get back to u.

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
I had all the dbz episodes but something went wrong. I need them again and I have a decent amount of the manga.

I mean if superman goes all out and goes crazy with heat vission then yes it should eat people but goku can do a quick Kamehameha blast to counter it and yes the kamehamehas been from earth all the way to the sun which is a while and pretty quick. Also well the only heat feats oku shown was one when he was with the vampire girlson snake way and he was in the bath and they said it would of melted normal men(this is goku befor ehe got training from king kia(the weakest goku) I forget how hot it was...unless that was a filler ep...then another one is goku on Namek when he was sjj and the barrier was up and swiped away namek lava(god knows how hot namek lava is but the planet is the biggest planet and how many suns around it because it's always day) . Then tehre is when freiza beat on him and through him in the lava without a barrir and then people thought he died because the earths magma(hotter than lava) from the core busted out on goku..but duh he is ssj so he didn't die at all. There are many and better others but eh I need to watch eps again..I will get back to u.

What's up Twister, I didn't notice it was you at first! 😆

Kamehameha wave takes to long, by the time he finish he'll be dead. Lava doesn't come close to the tempatures of stars or anything hotter than it (like Superman's Heat Vision). 🙂

Originally posted by dvampire
What's up Twister, I didn't notice it was you! 😆

Kamehameha wave takes to long, by the time he finish he'll be dead. Lava doesn't come close to the tempatures of stars or anything hotter than it (like Superman's Heat Vision). 🙂

Kamehame wave doesn't always take that long..only in the show..in the manga it doesn't take that long at all unless he is trying to blow up a planet then he has to charge it. Also when they shoot it off the side of the planet so it won't blow up, it travels very far all the way to the sun at times, and you can see it from space on where they charged shot it from so

Also yes it is twister..didn't the sig, give it away 😂

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
Magma is way hotter and the crap in the core of namek and no one prooved that it is the same heat as earth. you don't know that namek is hotter since it is way bigger of a planet, and has like 8 suns around it so it's always day.

Also yes it is twister..didn't the sig, give it away 😂

That still doesn't prove that it's as hot as the sun. 😕

Not at first, but now I know! 😆

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja

Kamehame wave doesn't always take that long..only in the show..in the manga it doesn't take that long at all unless he is trying to blow up a planet then he has to charge it. Also when they shoot it off the side of the planet so it won't blow up, it travels very far all the way to the sun at times, and you can see it from space on where they charged shot it from so

Even in the manga it still takes some time to charge, Superman isn't going to stand there. Kamehameha wave doesn't travel at light speed, if it did, Goku's Kamehameha wave whould have hit Raditz when he was trying to out run it.

Originally posted by dvampire
That still doesn't prove that it's as hot as the sun. 😕

Not at first, but now I know! 😆

Yeah. sun gets hotter then any core of any life sustaining planet or any planet for that matter. It could have 30 suns surrounding it and be 10 times the size of earth and it still wouldn't be as hot as the sun at the core

Originally posted by dvampire
That still doesn't prove that it's as hot as the sun. 😕

Not at first, but now I know! 😆

didn't say it was as hot as the sun lol. In my other post i said it will melt him if it toched him from a full powered supes. i just said that if he just shoots like he use to like little rays then goku can stand it for a while. Also it could be hot as it wants to be but Barrier is not skin if he puts one up. As for the force of the heat vission well goku takes blasts alot and his barrir(when he does use it) holds up.

oh yeah show me again where it says his heat vission is xx amount hotter than the sun ? I keep missing it.

Originally posted by Jose123
Yeah. sun gets hotter then any core of any life sustaining planet or any planet for that matter. It could have 30 suns surrounding it and be 10 times the size of earth and it still wouldn't be as hot as the sun at the core

😂 yeah because you know how hot the magma is on a make believe planet namelk 😂

didn't say it's hotter than the sun though. Like dvamp said no proof biut like I said i was prooving something else. 🙄

why can't goku instant transmission away from the heat vission. When superman goe sall out and does the Big heat vission it is not faster than light. Also goku did the Itm(instant trans) in a sec when cell shot at him and cell said you shouldn't of had the time to dodge that attack at such close range so how did you do it ggoku...goku says oh technique. It's not like goku is instant transmitting to some where very far, where he would have to locate it first. He sees whoever right in front of him so he could go like that right behind him quicker than quick to dodge heat vissiion.

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
😂 yeah because you know how hot the magma is on a make believe planet namelk 😂

didn't say it's hotter than the sun though. Like dvamp said no proof biut like I said i was prooving something else. 🙄

Magma is liquid hot rock. Not a Nuclear reactor.

You can atomically guess which is going to be hotter. No matter what planet it may be on.

Originally posted by Jose123
Magma is liquid hot rock. Not a Nuclear reactor.

You can atomically guess which is going to be hotter. No matter what planet it may be on.

Originally posted by Jose123
Yeah. sun gets hotter then any core of any life sustaining planet or any planet for that matter. It could have 30 suns surrounding it and be 10 times the size of earth and it still wouldn't be as hot as the sun at the core

Agreed! 🙂

Originally posted by dvampire
Agreed! 🙂

also no one said it is greater than sun and supe vission.

also again where did it say again how hot the supes vission is ? and by how much ?

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
why can't goku instant transmission away from the heat vission. When superman goe sall out and does the Big heat vission it is not faster than light. Also goku did the Itm(instant trans) in a sec when cell shot at him and cell said you shouldn't of had the time to dodge that attack at such close range so how did you do it ggoku...goku says oh technique. It's not like goku is instant transmitting to some where very far, where he would have to locate it first. He sees whoever right in front of him so he could go like that right behind him quicker than quick to dodge heat vissiion.

why can't he instant transmission? because it takes time and concentration. even if he can do within a second it's still not fast enough that supse can't hit him Not to mention being Heat visioned or getting your face smacked around is going to mess up your concentration.

not to mention supse is faster then him. way faster.

Originally posted by Jose123
why can't he instant transmission? because it takes time and concentration. even if he can do within a second it's still not fast enough that supse can't hit him Not to mention being Heat visioned or getting your face smacked around is going to mess up your concentration.

not to mention supse is faster then him. way faster.

omg I just said it goes in a sec like the cell example. the only reason it EVER took long is when he had to concentrate when he was going very far away not across the street.

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
didn't say it was as hot as the sun lol. In my other post i said it will melt him if it toched him from a full powered supes. i just said that if he just shoots like he use to like little rays then goku can stand it for a while. Also it could be hot as it wants to be but Barrier is not skin if he puts one up. As for the force of the heat vission well goku takes blasts alot and his barrir(when he does use it) holds up.

oh yeah show me again where it says his heat vission is xx amount hotter than the sun ? I keep missing it.

Goku can withstand Heat Vision depening on how much Superman holds back.

What barrier are you talking about that Goku uses?

Go to the Superman respect thread, there's feats laying around every where. 😄

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
omg I just said it goes in a sec like the cell example. the only reason it EVER took long is when he had to concentrate when he was going very far away not across the street.

Which he would have to do to get away from supse and the heat vison.

Otherwise he still gets hit.

supse can do a lot in less then a second.

Originally posted by dvampire
Goku can withstand Heat Vision depening on how much Superman holds back.

What barrier are you talking about that Goku uses?

Go to the Superman respect thread, there's feats laying around every where. 😄

Goku used one against freiza before. He used an arua against the ginyu force which was not a barrir lik ethe freiza one. Well if you remember the history of trunks when gohan did it to block blasts or brolly did it for blasts is just an example on what it looked like when goku did it to freiza.

also i looke din the thread and it shows picks, but never showed how hot it was. Never ever showed how hot it was so i am asking you where does it say it is hotter than the sun ?

Originally posted by Jose123
Which he would have to do to get away from supse and the heat vison.

Otherwise he still gets hit.

supse can do a lot in less then a second.

good because thats how long Itm takes..less than a sec when supes is so close so he doesn't need to even concentrate just think over there. Think how nightcrawler does it but way faster(light speed).

Show me where supes did a full powered heat vission and then magically went the speed of light once the person dodged it at the speed of light... Supes woouldn't know he even dodged it sinse it's itm at close range...yes he can dodge heat vission. where did your punches come from when we are discussiong if goku can dodge heat vission ?

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
why can't goku instant transmission away from the heat vission. When superman goe sall out and does the Big heat vission it is not faster than light. Also goku did the Itm(instant trans) in a sec when cell shot at him and cell said you shouldn't of had the time to dodge that attack at such close range so how did you do it ggoku...goku says oh technique. It's not like goku is instant transmitting to some where very far, where he would have to locate it first. He sees whoever right in front of him so he could go like that right behind him quicker than quick to dodge heat vissiion.

Because IT takes time to use. Heat Vision is light speed, even an low intensity blasts was able to go to the moon and it was trailling behind Flash also. Heat Vision also comes out very fast, Goku won't be able to dodge.

It took time before Goku teleported away from Cells Kamehameha wave, Superman isn't going to let Goku just teleport. Even if Goku does though, he'll just be wasting more energy.