Babysitters Rape 12-week Old Baby

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
But, I'm not talking about the death penalty or a life sentance, specifically. I'm referring to all justice. And the problem I'm saying can't be solved, is the urge to commit acts that go against a socially developed moral opinion. (not talking religion here) There will always be those people who want to do something and lack the mental centers that prevent you, me and others from doing those things.

Well yes, there's no cure for crime. There IS hope for prison systems though, it's just going to take a lot of work. I don't believe prison systems are beyond repair, but I believe they will be if we keep not bothering,

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I agree that personal outrage and knee-jerk reactions are a problem when dishing out punishment. That is why I said that the punishment needs to fit the crime.You know very well that I am of the opinion that crimes against children are no less outrageous than crimes against adults. (although, in this case, I'm confused as to how you would rape a 12 week old baby. I mean, how hung could this guy be? But I digress) As for answering your question, I said in my last post that if a person commits murder, and there are no circumstances to justify that murder, then they should be put to death. Otherwise, life in prison for those who deserve it, is completely reasonable. The outragersous part in your opinion, would be the crimes for which I would sentence someone to life in prison.

Well we'll always disagree on the eye/eye mentality, but otherwise, I agree. Life should mean life and this has always been my point.

-AC

Originally posted by Syren
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/4599524.stm

First of all, initial reactions to this? I was so horrified I found it very difficult to believe that it happened. A 12-week old baby? I couldn't see it as even possible...

The worst thing is, French is due to serve only 5 years in a young offender's institute because, basically, she was 'led astray'. I'm sorry, but partaking in petty crime, smoking underage, stealing your parents' alcohol and topping it up with water, these things can be considered a part of someone being led astray. But this woman isn't a child and as far as I am concerned it takes a lot more than a 'please, it'll be fun' from a boyfriend to make someone participate in such a hideous act.

What do you think? I'm not even going to ask if you think the sentences are too light. Of course they are.

This whole thing is just another example of the fact that society handles women the wrong way. Even when clearly guilty of horrible crimes they can get off easy just by claiming that a man forced them to do it, because society has a retarded view that women are pure, innocent and only capable of being victims...a view that is wildly retarded and must be changed immediately. They should both have been executed, and by "both" I mean "including the woman"; I didn't mean "just the man" when I said "both".

😂 I see your point and I agree that they should both have received much heavier sentences, but I don't think she got off lightly because of her gender. Probably more to do with the fact that she's 19 and he's 40. Although, at 19, she should have known better, the authorities must believe she's worthy of rehabilitation... 😬

Originally posted by Syren
😂 I see your point and I agree that they should both have received much heavier sentences, but I don't think she got off lightly because of her gender. Probably more to do with the fact that she's 19 and he's 40. Although, at 19, she should have known better, the authorities must believe she's worthy of rehabilitation... 😬

It's actually more to do with the fact that she wasn't the active party; she was assisting.

Still a pretty horrendous thing to assist with, though 😬

Does it take a 19 year old to hold down a 12 week old baby?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Does it take a 19 year old to hold down a 12 week old baby?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't know...never tried to rape a baby...maybe you can give us some insight.

Well..DUH! If I knew I wouldn't have asked a question...

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Well..DUH! If I knew I wouldn't have asked a question...

Yeah...right....or you would have to make it seem like you wouldn't know how to rape babies also in fact you do.....paedophile.

My guess is that she just watched...since well..there'S not a lot force needed to rape a baby...my brother told me...I wouldn't know.

We'll wait until Kid Rock gets here...ask him.

We should be discussing the 'why' to individuals' actions.

Of course we can spend all day arguing jail terms, system failures and death sentences, but what really needs to be addressed is the mental state of these ill people, so that children and infants may not be subject or victim to them.

Originally posted by GCG
We should be discussing the 'why' to individuals' actions.

Of course we can spend all day arguing jail terms, system failures and death sentences, but what really needs to be addressed is the mental state of these ill people, so that children and infants may not be subject or victim to them.

I think to discuss the why, we'd have to have some people who are willing to admit they have thought about it. I mean, AC and I touched on that in our discussion. Neither of us were qualified to address the 'why' part, because..all joking aside...we both poses the mental centers to prevent us from finding that acceptable behavior.

So, like I said, we wait for Kid Rock

Originally posted by Syren
Still a pretty horrendous thing to assist with, though 😬

Obviously. It would be a weird system that gave them equal sentences in this instance, though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah...right....or you would have to make it seem like you wouldn't know how to rape babies also in fact you do.....paedophile.

My guess is that she just watched...since well..there'S not a lot force needed to rape a baby...my brother told me...I wouldn't know.

She filmed/took pictures, stuff like that.

Originally posted by Syren
She filmed/took pictures, stuff like that.

Well, that should not be punished the same, though.

No perhaps not. But punished a touch more than her current sentence, surely?

Ugh...
Sadly, I predicted this sort of thing was going to happen and be publicized sooner or later.

What the hell they were thinking, even their life is not enough to pay for this!

Originally posted by Syren
No perhaps not. But punished a touch more than her current sentence, surely?

I don't know...I mean it is pretty strong for the harm done.