They claim to value human life--but not the life of an unborn child.
Ever wondered about the feelings of a young woman who was impregnated unwillingly? Rape victims getting pregnant isn't as rare as you think. Should she go through the suffering of delivering an unwanted child?
They preach tolerance--but show none to Christians and their beliefs.
That's probably based on a few biased assumptions. Either way, trust me.. There are no politicians who are irrationally intolerable to Christians. But to Muslims however....
They profess equality--yet support everything that undermines it. They seek to erode the very foundations upon which our country is supported.
Wow, pretty impressive conclusion. I never heard of it before. Please elaborate?
Originally posted by overlord
[b]They claim to value human life--but not the life of an unborn child.
Ever wondered about the feelings of a young woman who was impregnated unwillingly? Rape victims getting pregnant isn't as rare as you think. Should she go through the suffering of delivering an unwanted child?They preach tolerance--but show none to Christians and their beliefs.
That's probably based on a few biased assumptions. Either way, trust me.. There are no politicians who are irrationally intolerable to Christians. But to Muslims however....They profess equality--yet support everything that undermines it. They seek to erode the very foundations upon which our country is supported.
Wow, pretty impressive conclusion. I never heard of it before. Please elaborate? [/B]
2. You would say the religious right are intolerant, yes? Think of them, only on the other side of the political spectrum.
3. Evil tends to do that. Break things down, that is.
Either way, this is clearly a discussion that is going to get out of hand and derail the thread. If you have any other comments, please send them to me via PMs or create another thread for that purpose.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Silly rabbit, the extremely morally deficient don't have the right to life. They lost it a long time ago.
Silly rabbit, morality is subjective. Don't forget that tidbit of reality. Jesus is fun and all, and I'm in no way condoning what these two people did, but morality is subjective on a lot of levels.
Re: Babysitters Rape 12-week Old Baby
Originally posted by Syren
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/4599524.stmFirst of all, initial reactions to this? I was so horrified I found it very difficult to believe that it happened. A 12-week old baby? I couldn't see it as even possible...
The worst thing is, French is due to serve only 5 years in a young offender's institute because, basically, she was 'led astray'. I'm sorry, but partaking in petty crime, smoking underage, stealing your parents' alcohol and topping it up with water, these things can be considered a part of someone being led astray. But this woman isn't a child and as far as I am concerned it takes a lot more than a 'please, it'll be fun' from a boyfriend to make someone participate in such a hideous act.
What do you think? I'm not even going to ask if you think the sentences are too light. Of course they are.
Its things like this that makes me ponder the fate of this world and where humanity is really heading the world is so messed up, it should be simple society has rules and if people break those rules they should be removed from society of course petty crime such as theft should be considered but i think these people shouldnt be placed back into the community they removed the innocence of an innocent child and for that they most be punished for the rest of their life. Besides the government and the world needs to send out a message to all these peados WE WONT STAND FOR THIS.
Re: Re: Babysitters Rape 12-week Old Baby
Originally posted by sexyking
Its things like this that makes me ponder the fate of this world and where humanity is really heading the world is so messed up
Do you think this is the first time this has ever happened?
People need to stop with the apocalyptic societal-meltdown BS.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Silly rabbit, morality is subjective. Don't forget that tidbit of reality. Jesus is fun and all, and I'm in no way condoning what these two people did, but morality is subjective on a lot of levels.
Maybe. But I'm lazy.
Re: Re: Re: Babysitters Rape 12-week Old Baby
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Do you think this is the first time this has ever happened?People need to stop with the apocalyptic societal-meltdown BS.
I am sorry but i seem to have missed the part where i stated that this was the first time such a thing has happened and no i am not spouting any apocalyptic statements, you have to understand when things like this happen its shocking and makes people analysis things in my case the world. I read what happened and posted on the spot what i was feeling i hope that is okay with you since you seem to be the negative police. Besides its kind of ironic for someone who has doom in thier name to be complaning about such matters
Re: Re: Re: Re: Babysitters Rape 12-week Old Baby
Originally posted by sexyking
I am sorry but i seem to have missed the part where i stated that this was the first time such a thing has happened and no i am not spouting any apocalyptic statements, you have to understand when things like this happen its shocking and makes people analysis things in my case the world. I read what happened and posted on the spot what i was feeling i hope that is okay with you since you seem to be the negative police. Besides its kind of ironic for someone who has doom in thier name to be complaning about such matters
If it takes a kid getting raped to make you realise that the world is a horrid place then you seriously have much bigger issues than VVD's blunt humour tinged with reality.
The world isn't ok until a kid gets harmed, it's a shit place as it is. People are getting raped, murdered and tortured as I type these letters.
-AC
Originally posted by FeceMan
We're discussing that in my ethics class. I maintain that it's not. In fact, I was going to make a thread on moral relativism.Maybe. But I'm lazy.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that all morals are subjective. But, that's why there is debate on teh topic. I have my idea of what is morally right, I simply don't assume that others are bound by my life experiences and have reached the same moral conclusions. Every one, for the most part, can agree that killing another human being is wrong. But lighter topics, like pornography, is a gray area. I, personally, don't have any issues with porn. Others do. But, when does that person not liking it become an issue that involves the law? Drinking as well. When drinking was made illegal here in the states, it was done as an across-the-board, moral descision made by the government for everyone else.
As Bill Maher has been saying for years; why should taste be legislated, if it isn't being done for religious reasons? And when religion is the absolute basis for your morals, then you haven't reached an informed conclusion on what is realistically right and wrong. You've been told what is right and wrong. And when the government legislates religious tastes, that makes you the citizen of a theocracy.
Originally posted by Bardock42
But they are.
In different parts of the world, I'm sure that murder is socially acceptable if the one being killed/punished has commited some sort of cultural foepah. But, I don't know of any culture where anger is a valid cultural or social excuse for murder.
But, murder is really the only one I can think of...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Babysitters Rape 12-week Old Baby
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If it takes a kid getting raped to make you realise that the world is a horrid place then you seriously have much bigger issues than VVD's blunt humour tinged with reality.The world isn't ok until a kid gets harmed, it's a shit place as it is. People are getting raped, murdered and tortured as I type these letters.
-AC
Yeah, to bad there's to many people just typing letters on this in an attempt to hide from giving a solution, and not enough people greasing meatgrinders.