Originally posted by The Pict
batman would use one of those pressure point moves and paralyse the cap for an easy win
Or Cap does the very same thing. But even faster, since Captain America is faster than Bruce.
Originally posted by Mr Master
My reasoning is in Batman's striking power,(his chi force which can be harnessed instantly allows him to split 2' trees in two and crumble brick walls)expertise in fighting(Master of 127 styles)coupled with his nearly superhuman intelligence(he knows what to, when to do it and how)
And Captain America isn't one of the best fighters in the Marvel universe? He doesn't have precise striking power? Nor has he ever done anything like knock down steel doors, or the like. Brick and trees are nothing to guys like Captain America and Bruce.
Originally posted by batdude123
Batman can and has lifted more than 500lbs. That seriously underscores his strength.
Yes, but his BEST lifting feats are usually STRUGGLING with eight hundred to a thousand pounds. Steve's by comparison are EASILY working out with over a thousand pounds, tossing a seven hundred pound woman like she were nothing, and managing to send his shield through steel.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Oh, and before you ask, I think that yes, with prep time, AND his gadgets, Batman would probably take Cap. But that is a different thread...
*nods* ✅
I don't remember where exactly I posted, however, I believe I said something along these lines:
Steve (No shield or chainmail) versus Bruce (No suit or gadgets) - Steve, 8/10
Captain America (Shield and chainmail) versus Batman (Suit and gadgets) - Captain Ameica 6/10.
Captain America vs. Batman with prep - Batman 10/10.
You see, everyone approximates Captain America and Batman as close equals. In every regard.
While I agree with this in the skill department, I don't see how Bruce is even CLOSE to physically equal to Steve.
As I mentioned, Batmans BEST lifting feats are several hundred pounds under Captain America's norm. I've never seen Bruce run a one minute mile. I have seen Captain America show off better durability, better longevity. Arguably better reflexes, AND, he has an indestructable shield.
Approximating equal skill, with all of this? In a hand to hand fight? Batman goes down. Often. Adding in Bruce's gadgets? He makes it almost equal. With prep?
Steve's ****ed. :-P.