Originally posted by Doc Ock
What about Schumacher turning Gotham all bright and full of neon??Making Riddler and Two Face act like the Joker?? Two Face constantly flipping the coin until he got the side he wanted.
Batman was also a killer in Schumacher's movies.
He hammed up the villains to unbearable degrees.Look at Mr Freeze and his string of lame one liners.Having his men sing along to a cartoon 🙄 🙄
Bane,the villain who broke Batman,was a retarded love slave henchman to Poison Ivy.
Batgirl was Alfred's niece.
How can you hate Burton more?? At least his changes were enjoyable to watch.
Like Lord shadow said,all good and valid points but addressing your points here.
Well after the way Burton butchered to death Batman in his two films,a change like the neon lights was much needed to distinguish his fairly good Batman forever-the one decent batman flick of the four,away from burtons monstrocity.Burton had the right idea of Gothem city back then and it was okay for its time,but he made the movie TOO dark and went overboard on that to the point where in the night scenes he had,you couldn't see what was going on half the time,where Nolan nailed the look of Gothem making the scenes dark but you could still see what was going on at the time.Thats why I welcomed the change to neon and bright lights because I like to be able to see whats going on when I am watching a movie,with Batman forever,you at least did not have that problem you had with burtons night scenes,with batman and robin though,schumacher went overboard and made it way too bright then.
As I have stated before in the past,chris o'donnel and Two face were easily the worst two things about that movie just like keaton was easily the worst thing wrong with burtons batman movies.
See in Batman forever,there was never any clear cut evidence that Two face died in that movie,it was never announced in the movie he was dead,people just assume he died because of how he laid there in the water,just like there is no real clear cut evidence that ducard died in batman begins on the train,in both those cases they could have escaped since it was never announced they were dead for sure,two face could have swam away,we dont know beyond a doubt he didnt..that was the only instance in that movie where people could assume he killed somebody and just for the record,I hated it when he through out the coins like that with two face and made him fall down to the bottom like that,I have never said I loved batman forever. There was never any real clear cut evidence that two face died like there was with joker and penguin,it didnt show his face when he fell that it was motionless or anything.
Well because of their builds and their personalitys,I always thought after seeing batman forever,that they should have swapped roles and turned things around with joker and riddler,that they were mosr suited for the other role,Carrey as Joker and Nicholson as Riddler.two face,should have just been left out of forever.
as I have said countless of times,I liked forever far better because Schumacher at least when schumacher cast Kilmer,he cast someone who at least came close to having the right physical build and resembled the role-bob kane himself said he liked kilmer the best of the four because of that reason,thats why i can only laugh when people say they liked keaton better,i mean how can you argue with the actual creator who he liked the best? Plus when I see a batman movie,I expect to see lots of action in it,Batman forever HAD that,burtons batmans,they just stood around and talked the majority of the time till the last 30 minutes,boring boring boring.YAWN.plus batman forever was actually about batman,where the first two were ALL about the villains and bats was just a supporting character,at least in forever,the movie was about the actual lead character,batman and we actually understood why he fought crime and dressed up as a bat.The list can go on and on why Batman forever is the superiour film.
No reason to bring up batman and robin,I have alwasy said THAT one was equally as much a monstrocity as burtons batman films are.schumacher must have at that point started taking the same drugs that burton was because his casting choice of ugly looking george -eddie munster clooney as batman was just as much laughable as burtons choice of keaton as batman and all the other changes he made such as batgirl being alfreds niece.