Batman Begins.........Horrible "reinvention".

Started by roughrider22 pages

Originally posted by Rafkins_Warning
Um... I grew up on Burton's Batman, so it is all I know and will ever know... Keaton is the one and only Batman to me... sorry, just how this girl was raised!

I mean Burton's films were based on the comics, he adds his own style to all of his works and that's what makes them unique and genius!

And I don't care if BB is an adaptation or a "rebirth" of the series... that has nothing to do with the fact that it was boring as hell! I mean I'm sure it's not all Nolan's fault... Goyer is afterall behind it as well... I hate that man! He ruins everything he touches!

So yes... Batman Begins was a very boring film and in my opinion Christian Bale did not do Bruce Wayne justice.

It's a step up from saying you were raised on the campy '60's show, but if you didn't even read Batman prior to the Burton films, well...you missed some stuff. Burton's not a comics fan, did you know that? Apparently brags about it.
Batman Begins felt like the Batman film I have always waited for. It is the best one. Cheerio. 😄

Um... I was raised on the "campy 60's show" actually... and I am proud of that little factoid!

And I know Burton didn't know much of the comics... thats why at the beginning of the films it says "Based on DC Comics' Batman"... key word there BASED.

And so what BB was to the books... it was still boring in the sense that it dragged on at dull moments, had horrible sequencing and was just all around boring!

Originally posted by braz
yea it does take up time, and it did in Batman Begins, the whole first half of the movie he wasnt even batman....but i liked it still, and in this case with batman begins i think the wait was well worth it...i think it kind of used it as a tease i think and made u want to see batman so bad, and u didnt and BAM! there he is headbutting falcone, and ur just like...wow, that was tooo cool!!! (at least thats the way i saw it)

Yeah, and by the time it got to him head butting Falcone we didn't care anymore!

Well... for me anyway, by that time my interest in Batman had been lost completely... I think I lost it somewhere during the League of Shadows' training sequence... not sure... I was about to fall asleep during it.

Given some parts were amusing but nowhere near as good as they should have been. Just like "Oh look... there's Barbara and Jim Jr. in there... how cute..." but nothing to really peak my interest.

And what the hell was up with Falcone strung up on the spotlight? Those things are like 1,000 degrees... he would have been melted to it and dead from third degree burns! Maybe I'm thinking too scientifically into that one....

BATMAN RETURNS:

Learn how to write a sentance with punctuation.

If anyone wants to hear a review of Batman Begins, I'd recommend reading a critic's opinion that knows what they are talking about.

Just because you write a lot and are of in great need of an editor, doesn't mean a great film like Batman Begins is bad.

I don't know what Ebert and Roeper were smoking when they watched and reviewed BB... but I lost a bit of my respect for them that day... not the first time its happened though... lost a bit of respect for Ebert the day he almost gave Rent a thunbs down... I fear the man is losing his "stuff".

Originally posted by Rafkins_Warning
Um... I was raised on the "campy 60's show" actually... and I am proud of that little factoid!

And I know Burton didn't know much of the comics... thats why at the beginning of the films it says "Based on DC Comics' Batman"... key word there BASED.

And so what BB was to the books... it was still boring in the sense that it dragged on at dull moments, had horrible sequencing and was just all around boring!

😆 Now you're saying that you are raised on the 60s Batman too? I thought you said you were only raised on Burton's Batman before?! 😆

These Burton fans are really intelligent! 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Rafkins_Warning
I don't know what Ebert and Roeper were smoking when they watched and reviewed BB... but I lost a bit of my respect for them that day... not the first time its happened though... lost a bit of respect for Ebert the day he almost gave Rent a thunbs down... I fear the man is losing his "stuff".

I'd take Ebert's review over yours in a hot second.

He actually knows what he is talking about.

Roeper loved it too - not just Ebert.

Well Roeper has no taste and Ebert kinda gets caught up in flashing lights and shiny objects... can't blame him for that though... seems it caught a lot of other people's eye as well.

Oh... and my uncle used to make me watch the TV show when I was like 3-7... and I watched the Burton movies from 4 years old till today... and yes, I am quite intelligent, personally I think you very unintelligent for trying to say I am not when you know absolutely nothing about me.

Originally posted by Rafkins_Warning
Well Roeper has no taste and Ebert kinda gets caught up in flashing lights and shiny objects... can't blame him for that though... seems it caught a lot of other people's eye as well.

But for some reason, you think you have taste. 😆

So, now the only Batman movies that don't have insane anti-fans posting five-thousand word essays about how much they suck are ... Batman Forever and Batman and Robin?

Funny how that worked out.

Originally posted by Rafkins_Warning
Oh... and my uncle used to make me watch the TV show when I was like 3-7... and I watched the Burton movies from 4 years old till today... and yes, I am quite intelligent, personally I think you very unintelligent for trying to say I am not when you know absolutely nothing about me.

OK good comeback. I can tell your type by the way you contradicted yourself in each of those posts.

First you said you were raised on Burton's Batman, then raised on the 60's show.

Did you call Batman your daddy since you were raised by television?

Originally posted by Gregory
So, now the only Batman movies that don't have insane anti-fans posting five-thousand word essays about how much they suck are ... Batman Forever and Batman and Robin?

Funny how that worked out.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Harvey Dent
But for some reason, you think you have taste. 😆

I have more taste than some it would seem.

More maturity as well.

And sorry... last time i checked this wasn't the "Batman Begins Lovers" forum... it is open to all discussions... and a difference in opinion should not be frowned upon it should be take gratefully.

Batman Begins had its ups an downs. I think the action kinda sucked, all those crappy camera angles you couldnt tell what the hell was going on when he was fighting half the time.
I think the 1st Burton Movie was the best MOVIE, but the best interpretation has to be the 90's Batman Cartoon. Some episodes were so good, some episodes were better than any of the films.
I remember there was one episode where the scarecrow hits batman, but as Bruce Wayne, with a Fearless toxin makin him totally fearless so he will walk into this moat of alligators. The scarecrow walks away thinkin Bruce Wayne is as good as dead, an Bruce does calmly walk into the moat totally submerged with the crocs jumpin on where he was then a totally motionless surface. Then 5 seconds later Bruce emerges the other side calm as before an several seconds later all the bodies of all the crocs float to the surface dead. LOL, so its like the fear toxin actually made him more of a baddazz. I was prayin for something like that in Batman Begins.
I also I think the costume is a little off, I think they need to make the eye slots for the costume white so its not showing iris's so it looks just like the comic. Then if Batman is trying to scope out some place dark they should go red for infravision.
An was it me or was a lot of that action kinda generic? I wasnt too impressed, I kept thinking of the knife fight in Burton's 1st Batman an was waiting for a fight scene to top that, that NEVER came.
The fear toxin special effects were dead on though, Batman looking like a black demon, then looking like a demon flying over the city towards the end. They just needed Batman to whoop a little more azz, like see a dark area full of thugs, then the screen pans away then quickly pans back an all the thugs are out cold on the ground or totally vanished without a sound or a trace. I mean we got to see spidey pull some need acrobatic moves right out of the comics but I didnt see any cool batman moves really. They need to show him as being more formidable than they did.
What would have really been cool would have been more on his training in martial arts before he meets Ra. Quiodi his arch rival in his training dojo, ect. Or some of the training they show in the cartoon again a perfect example. Shows him understudying a magician, learning his escape artist tricks, picking hand cuffs, disappearing in plain sight, slight of hand, ect.

I agree... to supposedly be explaining all of Bruce's past, BB doesn't go into how Bruce knows all these fighting skills long before he meets Ducard/Ra's.

And the lighting was awful in the film, I could hardly see what was happening during the night-time scenes, like when he fights Falcone's thugs and then at the Narrows when Crane gasses him for the first time.

I do like how they made Batman look at the end in the Narrows with the toxin, it was very creepy and lived up to its hype... unlike a lot of the movie.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Batman Begins was awesome.

Batman Begins rocked my cotton socks. droolio

Originally posted by H. S. 6

Batman Begins rocked my cotton socks. droolio

couldnt have said it better