Batman Returns - If your such a big Batman fan then how come you didn't realize you didn't like Batman Begins until after you bought it from FYE? Did you, an obvious Batman fan, not go see it in theaters? Blasphemy!
Btw, Begins is my fav Batman movie and I actually enjoyed the parts before he became Batman MORE than the rest of the movie. Parts that some people refer to as "slow" I refer to as more intelligent.
Originally posted by Myth
Batman Returns - If your such a big Batman fan then how come you didn't realize you didn't like Batman Begins until after you bought it from FYE? Did you, an obvious Batman fan, not go see it in theaters? Blasphemy!Btw, Begins is my fav Batman movie and I actually enjoyed the parts before he became Batman MORE than the rest of the movie. Parts that some people refer to as "slow" I refer to as more intelligent.
Exactly. I wonder at the age of and maturity level of some of these complainers. They want a lot of mindless action, watch the Schumacher versions.
One of the best things going for BB was that it was totally about Bruce Wayne, and the evolution of his character that leads him to Batman. The flashback structure takes selective incidents from the past before he's found by Ducard in Bhutan. They showed just enough of the important points that shaped his mind and sense of justice; we don't need to see every criminology class or time spent on the parallel bars. By the time he goes in prison and reaches Ras Al Ghul's lair, we see he's picked up skills, but he has no whole to them; no identity.
Though I still liked the first Burton film, and sort-of like the second, and don't care for the third or fourth at all, one thing they all have in common is how much time is spent with the villains; they virtually took over. Some who watched the first, remarked it could just as well be called "Joker" instead of Batman.
I think I remember Batman Returns saying he never read Batman comics. I don't either. I mainly watched B:TAS. Anyway I thought BB was a good movie. Definetly better than the Schumacher movies. I have to see B '89 and BR again before I can make a final judgement.
Who's the lady in your sig roughrider?
Re: Batman Begins.........Horrible "reinvention".
Originally posted by Batman Returns
well, last night i watched BB again......for the last time. i absolutly hated this version of Batman, it was BORING. i cant
believe nolan made batman boring....
Pretty much that's when I stop reading. The rest looks more like someone had a bad infection of post-like vomiting. As much as I respect other people's opinion. I find it hard...nope...IMPOSSIBLE to believe you're a Batman fan. No matter how much YOU claim to be one. You aren't...and I this isn't the first you come here and start pointless rants and rather brainless posts. You've done it before and quite frankly I don't even know why I'm bothering to read your gargage (OMG!!! The moderator said GARBAGE!!!!) Do yourself a favor and quit making a [insert funny word here] in the boards.
If you had ANY debatable and true criticism of the film I might given you the benefit of the doubt. Or even had a nice debate with you. Instead...I won't waste my precious time (which you don't deserved) with the baffle of wasteland thread. Thank you and come again. Just please...don't come to me. Later...
WD
I am a Batman fan, but this movie was just rediculously boring. i mean cmon, a little boy steals a small rock from a little girl, and then he falls down a hole. years later, he is bruce wayne, the only white man in an English-language chinese prison. Bruce is pretty rich back in America, but he had himself sent to a chinese prison so that he could train himself to beat people up, because he's pissed off about his parents getting shot by a mugger. Okay. Then, he meets a guy with some sort of unpronounceable name, and this guy wants Bruce to join his group of evil ninjas. So, Bruce is like, "Evil ninjas? Where do I sign up?" Of course, when the evil ninja training is finished (wich totally sucked) and they want him to kill somebody, Bruce freaks out and burns down the whole place, probably killing quite a few people, very un-Batman like since he vowed not to "kill" anyone(though keatons wasnt a pussy like bale was). Okay. Then, he goes home to rejoin the business world and fight crime. Luckily, he meets a guy at his father's company, and this guy makes superhero equipment for a living. Talk about your happy coincidences.
David Goyer must be stopped. Seriously. I have no idea how anybody could have looked at the script for this ****ing abomination and said, "Hey, I want to make that!" How many lame-brained action movie cliches can you fit into one film? How much cringe-worthy dumbass dialog can you make your overqualified cast choke out? How much cheesy sentimental bullshit can you squeeze into a movie about a guy fighting crime in a modified s&m outfit? If you're David Goyer, the possibilities are endless.
"Why bats, Master Wayne?"
"Bats frighten me. It's time my enemies shared my dread."
**** you, David Goyer.
Now, don't think that I'm letting Christopher Nolan off the hook, either. Then, there's the rest of the movie. You know, if you're making a brainless action picture (and make no mistake, that's exactly what this is), wouldn't it make sense to maybe show the action? Just a little? Maybe? For christ's sake, in some scenes I don't even know what the **** was going on. Even on the rare occasions where the editing is somewhat coherent and you can get an idea of what's going on, it's still just a bunch of really quick close-ups. Then, for everything that isn't action, it all has to be big, sweeping, epic, even if there's no particular reason for it. Sort of like the music.
Oh, good christ, what the **** is up with the music? Hey, Bruce Wayne, you've got a ****ing orchestra following you around. Maybe you should think about filing a restraining order or get better music. I mean, it's like every scene has this un-majestic sappy score to point out exactly what particular emotion you're supposed to be feeling at this precise moment, thank you very much. This music is definitely Oscar-worthy, by which I mean it sucks. Elfmans was soooo much better, theres no theme here! Okay, okay, on its own maybe the music wouldn't be so bad, but it's pretty ****ing obnoxious to have sucky boring music like this.
And this is just how they make big-budget action movies now, only some of them use inappropriate pop songs in place of an overenthusiastic sappy orchestral score. Jesus christ, that's just plain depressing. Where are the good old ways of making a GOOD Batman movie? ......sad.
BB is a phenomenal film! It's actually quite loyal to the cpomics AND is a very good film even for those who don't necessarily care about the comics! It's not just a film for comic boffs and shit, you arseholes! It's better than Burton's bloody serial killing Batman and infinitely better than Schumacher's gay nippled Batmen!
Where did you copy all that Bullshit from anyways?
I mean it's obvious that anyone who knows Batman and claims to be a fan themself would never critizise the points you critizised in your last post. that is what Batman is. So either you haven't read a Batman comic in your life (which I find rather possible) or you have copied it off of saome Website that doesn't know shit aboot Batman or and that would be the best option in my opinion, you jsut like to piss people off.
I don't think he copied it from a website, otherwise the guy who did that review seriously has a problem in his english language lol
Batman Returns, I think you made your point, and there are some valid ones! But it's useless to continue this, cause it's just totally pointless...Michael Keaton is in my opinion The bat...Christian Bale is on the right track to take over the throne...and I know there are a lot of members who think he already did, but he didn't! Michael Keaton made two amazing Batman films, let's see if Bale can do the same! He has the potential..Can't wait for the sequel to find out...
Batman Returns above, talks about Bruce "meeting a guy with an unpronounceable name" - 😑 You mean Ras Al Ghul? The man who is, in the international sense, one of his top adversaries?
😒 You dare to call yourself a Batman fan. Your posts shows you to be a moron with an uninformed opinion.
Put down that coffee which is making you go beserk here, stop worshipping at Tim Burton's altar - the man sneers at comics, did you know? - and go read some printed stories from the past two decades.
Come back when you have an educated criticism to make.
I agree wholeheartedly, roughrider. How can a guy who claims to be a big fan not know Ra's al Ghul? Hmmm... let's see... has he ever read Hush? One of the greatest comic works of recent years... or Son of the Demon, or Tales of the Demon or Death and the Maidens!? This guy is a pretender, he's probably never SEEN a comic or graphic novel in his short life! Haven't you heard of LEGACY, BR, though why you, a not- so- knowledgeble know- it- all, can have that name I don't know!