Batman Begins.........Horrible "reinvention".

Originally posted by Kazenji
Boring because theres not enough action ?

🙄 🙄 bloody ipod generation.

I really really hate to keep responding to this thread but since my advise has gone ignored and everybody keeps taking the bait from that guy,might as well post ONCE more.

yeah thats the most laughable criticism there is about Batman Begins is when people say it was boring. 😆 THAT criticism holds no water.the people who say that are desperately grasping for straws in jeoulousy of the success of the film.Say what you want to about not liking Batman Begins because of Bale as Batman or things like that- I'll never understand why people would say that since I dont see anything wrong in his performance or anything, but I'll at least admit THAT is a legitimate criticism to give. There are other criticisms of the film I have heard people say about on the movie such as the fights scenes-which I totally disagree with greatly,however I wont say it holds no water cause it also is valid in a way.But for the people who go and say it was boring,that is the most ludicrise and absurd criticism there is because like I said,THAT criticism holds no water at all. 😆 😆 😆

Anybody who saw this movie knows that the movie was hardly boring one bit at all.From beginning to the end it had tons of non stop action in it the way a Batman movie SHOULD have. 🙄 Now Batman 89,THAT movie was a boring snoozefest.yawn.The first hour in a half,they were just standing around talking the whole damn time with just a few brief action scenes here and there.It wasnt until the final 30 minutes of the movie when he went after the joker did the movie stop becoming boring.

Actually, I think that B89 is very entertaining throughout... Joker's antics are classic!

Begins was boring for me because of all the unnecessary dialog... Seriously, there was TOO MUCH... Things that could have been expressed visually were put into long-winded dialog... And then there isn't much of the "larger than life" attitude that a comic book movie usually has (TDK has it, why didn't Begins?)

Um, there were also critics that said Begins was dry at times. I remember one critic said it on the brink of greatness but that basically it's like someone was standing on Batman's cape holding him back. And to some extent I agree. The movie was so desperate not to be campy and understandably so that it did lose IMO some of it's overall entertainment value by being entirely too uptight.

And Batman 1989 was not a snoozefest at all. It wasn't true to the comic book in every aspect and it definitely had it's flaws but there is a reason that movie is one of the most well remembered comic book movies of that era and it aint cuz it was boring.

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
The movie was so desperate not to be campy and understandably so that it did lose IMO some of it's overall entertainment value by being entirely too uptight.

That was the whole point 🙄 🙄

That is what batman is ment to be like all serious sort of thing

bloody hell go back to watching your batman tv show with adam west.

QUOTE=10718744]Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce

And Batman 1989 was not a snoozefest at all. It wasn't true to the comic book in every aspect and it definitely had it's flaws but there is a reason that movie is one of the most well remembered comic book movies of that era and it aint cuz it was boring. [/B][/QUOTE]

Okay THIS will be my last post here. uh yes it WAS a boring snoozefest.A comicbook movie where your just standing around talking practically the whole damn time for the first hour in a half IS boring. so that loyal to the comicbook argument holds no water. Thats all right for a movie if its about a courtroom drama-JFK,TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD,PRESUMED INNOCENT ect,thats NOT okay for a comicbook movie though especially Batman.Its absurd.

Originally posted by Kazenji
That was the whole point 🙄 🙄

That is what batman is ment to be like all serious sort of thing

bloody hell go back to watching your batman tv show with adam west.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
QUOTE=10718744]

Okay THIS will be my last post here. uh yes it WAS a boring snoozefest.A comicbook movie where your just standing around talking practically the whole damn time for the first hour in a half IS boring. so that loyal to the comicbook argument holds no water. Thats all right for a movie if its about a courtroom drama-JFK,TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD,PRESUMED INNOCENT ect,thats NOT okay for a comicbook movie though especially Batman.Its absurd.

Originally posted by Kazenji
That was the whole point 🙄 🙄

That is what batman is ment to be like all serious sort of thing

bloody hell go back to watching your batman tv show with adam west.

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
The first hour of Batman 1989 was not mostly talking. Batman made an appearance almost right away, the Batcave was shown relatively quickly, the Joker's origin story kicked off almost right away and he changed and everything all within the first hour and a half. Plus we got to see kick ass scenes with a kick ass Batmobile, and we got Batman flying his plane and the very introduction of the grapple gun into Batman's arsenal...the only parts to Batman 1989 that were boring to me involved Vicky Vale.

Yeah, it's pretty easy to make a horrible movie and keep your attention. Very VERY easy, in fact.

Originally posted by Il.Mozalini
Yeah, it's pretty easy to make a horrible movie and keep your attention. Very VERY easy, in fact.

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
It definitely had one of Jack Nicholson's most memorable performances as an actor

Are you serious? I don't believe for a second that you are. Memorably bad, sure. One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Easy Rider, The Shining...hell, even About Schmidt or The Departed...MEMORABLE...but BATMAN? He didn't even PRETEND to act in that role and he KNOWS IT. He played that role and a ton of others for the money...it's a shame but he did. The day he get's praised for The Bucket List, Anger Management and Batman...god...HILARIOUS.

It's not even close. The Burton Batman was OK, Batman Returns was pretty bad. The best part of that first one was Jack as the Joker. Returns had nothing redeeming other than Michelle Pfeiffer is spandex. Batman Begins made Batman a human being and put something INSIDE the batsuit, however ugly you might think it is. Begins was just that, the begnning of a story, a character and a series. The next one, Dark Knight, will blow away any other Batman thanks to the build-up from Batman Begins.

Hahahaha, good one in this thread. Dudes batman returns and friends, the first two batman movies were a disgrace for the character. Almost everything was wrong, starting casting michael keaton as bruce wayne, doing jack playing himself in a joker costume, danny devito being an stupid freak, gordon was a stupid cop, batman is a killer, keaton was a terrible fighter and his bruce wayne was a bad copy of clark kent, the movies were boring, batman is a supporting character, etc. Those movies were totally horrible, as bad as the schumacher movies. That was a nightmare franchise only to forget about them.

The only true batman movie was batman begins. The character looked the parts, chris bale was brillaint as both batman and wayne, the supporting cast was superb except katie holmes, the dialogue and the story was great, the action very well directed, etc. And the dark knight looks even better, with both ledger as the joker and eckhart as two face looking very promise.

i think that it would be a better title for this thread." batman begins: they fixed the horrible invention of burton and shumacher."

The thing about Batman Begins is people these days don't care about plot. They just care about action. What people fail to realize is that anything can be interesting; it doesn't always have to be action. Yeah, there's less action in Batman Begins, but there's plenty of plot and character. If people would just pay attention once in a while instead of waiting to be wowed by something being shoved in their faces, they could see the true value of movies.
Also, I'm sick of these emo punks saying that Batman needs to be darker and more insane than he was in Begins. Yeah, he's got issues, but he's also a superhero. And a fairly smart one, too. And yes, he does pretend to be charming around other rich people. I don't see how people want to see more insanity in Bale's performance, because if he did act any crazier, it'd be over the top. There, I'm done.

Personally I loved Batman Begins. Why?
Well let's see.. I really enjoy reading the Batman comics and I know a lot about the history of the Bat. What I liked about Batman Begins is that they really showed that history! They told you about a part of Batman's past that many movie fans just don't know. It was very interesting. I love who they got to play scarecrow. He really seems to fit the part in my mind. The point is they didn't just plop Joker down and make some dumb psychotic action film. They started to tell you the story of Batman from the beginning.

I'm really looking forward to the Dark Knight. I don't care who played Joker or anything like that. I'm going to see the next installment of one of my favorite heroes on the big screen. And I hope that eventually Catwoman will be introduced into this new movie series and maybe be in more than one of the movies. ^^'

As for the old movies, I really love the first two - Batman & Batman Returns - but the second two - Batman & Robin & Batman Forever - were just disappointments. Batman Returns is still the best Batman movie in my opinion, but with Dark Knight coming that may soon change.

Originally posted by Il.Mozalini
Are you serious? I don't believe for a second that you are. Memorably bad, sure. One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Easy Rider, The Shining...hell, even About Schmidt or The Departed...MEMORABLE...but BATMAN? He didn't even PRETEND to act in that role and he KNOWS IT. He played that role and a ton of others for the money...it's a shame but he did. The day he get's praised for The Bucket List, Anger Management and Batman...god...HILARIOUS.

Originally posted by D_A_R_E

As for the old movies, I really love the first two - Batman & Batman Returns - but the second two - Batman & Robin & Batman Forever - were just disappointments. Batman Returns is still the best Batman movie in my opinion, but with Dark Knight coming that may soon change.

I love Batman Returns so much.. You have no idea how many times I've watched that movie. lol

Returns was crap. Even more than the first one.

Begins had a great plot. It was intense and it developed the bruce wayne /batman personality very well. They nailed the character in the story.

I don't think they nailed the character because I don't think Batman would have let Ras die or that Bruce would have burned down that facility like that without making sure the guy they brought in for him to kill would have gotten out. And the Bat voice was awful in that movie.