Originally posted by Deja~vuExcept that's not the period we are talking about. We are clearly referencing from about 30AD- circa 200AD.
And??Who started the Crusades? What was the reasoning for it? What did the Christians do that the Muslims didn't do in the beginning? Why did the Muslims revenge tactic change? Why has this war carried on for so long?
Ponder.
Originally posted by Deja~vu
And??Who started the Crusades? What was the reasoning for it? What did the Christians do that the Muslims didn't do in the beginning? Why did the Muslims revenge tactic change? Why has this war carried on for so long?
Ponder.
Good grief, it seems that this forum is going downhill at an exponential rate.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
NO! STOP TRYING TO SILENCE ME.No one can have proof when it comes to the bible. The bible is not a book of fact. The bible is a book of opinions and stories.
Try to prove a philosophy.
Ergo, shut up and die in a fire.
Nellinator, I think he's trolling us.
Proof or STFU and GTFO, kthx.
Moral commonalities between cultures say otherwise.
dont be an idiot. there as many commonalities as there are differences. and most of what is commonly considered JUST has nothing to do with relegion, but men's intellect using logic. as long as you are talking about commonalities NOT supported by logic, youl find very few. and the most important thing is the point about people showing DIFFERENCES in what they feal guilty/right, you can not avoid this, in one place, men burn their wives when they die and stond people to death and not feal a hint of guilt and in others well, you know the story. dont be an ignorant prig.
If one concedes that God can't be omniscient while allowing for free will, then one must also concede that God has had no will. Thus, God has no control over His actions...so STFU because it breaks your argument either way.
Proof or STFU and GTFO, kthx.Proof or STFU and GTFO, kthx.
you are a very angry christian rent you 🙁 . or is this type of behavior your attempt at being a "COOL CHRISTIAN"? 😉
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
You ****ing halfwit, you made claims about Christians and I told you to prove them by citing historical data. (There's a huge difference between metaphysical arguments and arguments that ought to be backed by historical data.)Ergo, shut up and die in a fire.
Nellinator, I think he's trolling us.
Proof or STFU and GTFO, kthx.
Oh! that's right, Christians where never persecuted in the early Church. 🙄
Why do I need to give you proof for something that is common knowledge?
AND NO! I AM NOT GOING TO STFU.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
dont be an idiot. there as many commonalities as there are differences. and most of what is commonly considered JUST has nothing to do with relegion, but men's intellect using logic. as long as you are talking about commonalities NOT supported by logic, youl find very few. and the most important thing is the point about people showing DIFFERENCES in what they feal guilty/right, you can not avoid this, in one place, men burn their wives when they die and stond people to death and not feal a hint of guilt and in others well, you know the story. dont be an ignorant prig.
no control over action = nulls omnipotence
please do not tell me to stfu based on your neo theological arguments which are completely inconsistant with the basics uf other parts of christianity.
you are a very angry christian rent you 🙁 . or is this type of behavior your attempt at being a "COOL CHRISTIAN"? 😉
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Oh! that's right, Christians where never persecuted in the early Church. 🙄
Why do I need to give you proof for something that is common knowledge?AND NO! I AM NOT GOING TO STFU.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonEarly Christians? Like as in the time the Bible was written? If so, you'll have to define "negative" feelings and then somehow justify stretching that into early Christians hating everyone.
Maybe bigot is not the best word, but they had definite negative feeling and opinions about pagan Romans.
It is not religion that drives justice but rather the moral law, which may or may not be consciously understood.
No omnipotence = paradigm shift. It doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. I was merely showing how that omniscience paradox fails. (Either God omnipotence allows Him to surpass the paradox or God has no free will, in which case your arguments fall apart.)
LMAO, "YOU" sir have broken the age old paradox and completely obliterated the mistaken view that has continued on fopr thousands of years.
no not really. one can not have PARADIGM SHIFTS in omnipotence. you are assuming omnipotence is time based. however, that is a grave error, to say that god can sumtimes be omnipotent and sumtimes SUPRESS his omnipotence. time is also PART of his omnipotence so you fail.
omnipotence paradox has never failed, so quite dreaming. god's omnipotence does not allow him to surpass the paradox, a self contradictory idea can not, use ITSELF{which is self contradictor} to finish its self contradiction.
i dont see how god not having free will destroys my argument. if he doesnt have free wil then he =/= OMNIpotent. if he does than he is self contradictory.
Being "cool" went out of style after high school.
oh wow, that sentence in itself is so COOL! 😄 please mr cool christian sir, cud you maybe give me more such sentences so that every1 can start thiking of christians as cool??? please please pretty please.... 🤣
Well, yes, Christians were persecuted. I am, however, asking you to provide proof that Christians did the persecuting.
Proof or STFU and GTFO, kthx.
oh oh, that is so COOL! do that again!
The Christians of the bible were bigoted people who hated everyone who wasn’t a Christian, and they had good reason You would expect this kind of propaganda in the literature of the time.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
DISPROVEN. laws are different everywhere, specially in olden times. most people feal in those societies that they are just. there is no single law written upton the HEARTS of me. the similarities come from any logical thinking on the part of the people who made them. and also, you have no way even remotely getting evidence for your above stated position. and the fact that it goes against obervation is the death sentence.
LMAO, "YOU" sir have broken the age old paradox and completely obliterated the mistaken view that has continued on fopr thousands of years.
no not really. one can not have PARADIGM SHIFTS in omnipotence. you are assuming omnipotence is time based. however, that is a grave error, to say that god can sumtimes be omnipotent and sumtimes SUPRESS his omnipotence. time is also PART of his omnipotence so you fail.
omnipotence paradox has never failed, so quite dreaming. god's omnipotence does not allow him to surpass the paradox, a self contradictory idea can not, use ITSELF{which is self contradictor} to finish its self contradiction.
i dont see how god not having free will destroys my argument. if he doesnt have free wil then he =/= OMNIpotent. if he does than he is self contradictory.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Proof or STFU and GTFO, kthx...
That is my opinion based on reading the verse. I can tell bigotry by just reading it; can't you?
BTW bigotry might be too harsh of a word, after all, they were being killed by the Romans. If someone was killing all my friends in my religion, I would feel the same way.