Revan vs Exar Kun (without Sith amulets/power amplification)

Started by calvin4414 pages

That was directed at Magnevus, right?

Originally posted by Jawa Lord
You do NOT question Janus' authority!

That's kickass how you made that font.

Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
That's kickass how you made that font.

It's my new typing Font.

I like it.

Yeah, more colorful font?

How did you get that Sorgo?

And zephiel or whatever, also if you want to go into quotes, at the end of the game Kreia says that the Exile is the best and strongest student she has ever taught, since this includes Revan, Exile > Revan.
Never mind that this makes no sense and is probably not true.

See how easily your quotes can get turned against you?

Originally posted by Darth Magnevus
okay, this really long post/bashing is getting anoying... any perticular reason you started doing it?

Any reason why you would ask that? Don't like, leave. No one is making you read it.

Originally posted by Lord Darkstar
How did you get that Sorgo?

And zephiel or whatever, also if you want to go into quotes, at the end of the game Kreia says that the Exile is the best and strongest student she has ever taught, since this includes Revan, Exile > Revan.
Never mind that this makes no sense and is probably not true.

See how easily your quotes can get turned against you?

Replace the words COLOR with GLOW.

Or put them together.

What?

Sorry can you go over that again, I didn't get it

glow words

Edit: Sweet, it works. LD, when you preview your post, press the color button and type what you want. 'COLOR' will be in the '[COLOR]'. Replace it with [COLOR] with [GLOW].

Originally posted by Lord Darkstar
What?

Sorry can you go over that again, I didn't get it

When you post, there is a color bar, correct?

It will tell you to type in a word to make it colorful.

then you just replace where it says COLOR with GLOW.

Like this! Yay!

Alright thanks

Originally posted by Lord Darkstar
Alright thanks

Or you could blend both together to make it look like this.

basically it's [color="your color here"] and [glow="your color here"].

Originally posted by Illustrious
basically it's [[b]color="your color here"] and [glow="your color here"]. [/B]
🐰

zOMG it's the hopping bunneh!

Since people really need the proof shoved down their throats 🙄 ...

Revan learned from Tulak Hord's holocron, and hence directly learned from the teachings of the best duelist. You have to provide the proof that Tulak wasn't the best duelist, because my source is straight from Kreia.

Kreia mentioned, if you have high enough influence with her, that Revan was her superior in force mastery. I wish I could give you a direct quote, but since it's in game its kind of hard, and I am not the type of person who memorizes video game lines.

He learned secrets from
Korriban
Malachor 5
tombs of the sith lords proof --> Adjunta Pall recognizing Revan

Accomplishments
single handedly defeated all the dark jedi in the Star Forge and all the star forge droids.
Defeated Mandalore and Yusanis without his lightsabre or force powers
Dueled and won against Malak (who was empowered with the force essence of several Jedi in conjuction with darkside energies of the Star Forge)
Won the Mandalorian wars
Was a genius at engineering--> created HK

These facts alone account for how Revan is Exar's equal at the very least.

By the end of Kotor, Revan was searching for the ancient Sith empire in hopes of defeating it and ensuring the safety of the galaxy. We assume that he succeeded since the galaxy wasn't royally f***** after the events of KOTOR/KOTOR2. It's undeniable the amount of skill he picked up with his sabre, and the amount of knowledge he amassed was considerably higher than what Exar has gained. At this point it is really obvious that Revan is old Exar's superior.

Done and Done. I shake the dust off from under my feet. 🙂

Originally posted by zephiel7
Since people really need the proof shoved down their throats 🙄 ... ]

Actually, it seems that you need to be the one that needs proof shoved down your throat

Revan learned from Tulak Hord's holocron, and hence directly learned from the teachings of the best duelist. You have to provide the proof that Tulak wasn't the best duelist, because my source is straight from Kreia.

No no no, you need to be the one to prove that he did learn everything from Tulaks holocron. You also need to prove that Tulak put all his knowledge into the holocron.

Also, even if he was the best, learning from the best does not make you the best or better than them. If it was then Younglings that learned from Yoda > Yoda, or Anakin > Obi-Wan.

Kreia mentioned, if you have high enough influence with her, that Revan was her superior in force mastery. I wish I could give you a direct quote, but since it's in game its kind of hard, and I am not the type of person who memorizes video game lines.

Thats nice, but unless you have proof it is usless, put up or shut up.

He learned secrets from
Korriban
Malachor 5
tombs of the sith lords proof --> Adjunta Pall recognizing Revan

About Korriban, I remind you that Exar was there first and would have taken things. Thus, Revan did not have all that was on Korriban because *gasp* Exar took some of it

About Malachor V, I thought you were just argueing that he spent 5 years searching for the Star Forge, when did he have time to study? You just pwned your own arguement. Also, he could not have learned everything from Malachor, to assume such is illogical and foolish.

For the tombs you use Ajunta for proof? Wow, that guy cannot even remember his own name, but he can teach Revan things and remember Revan. That is a bit of a stretch. Also, if Revan learned lots from Korriban and the tombs, then he was an idiot for not taking Naga Sadows poison blade, Ajunta Pall's blade, the scrolls etc.

Accomplishments
single handedly defeated all the dark jedi in the Star Forge and all the star forge droids.

That is complete hyperbole and I remember taking two other people with me on the Star Forge. Plus, you cannot argue gameplay as canon. If you can then I can argue that Revan never beat Malak, because in one of my games, he might not have.

Defeated Mandalore and Yusanis without his lightsabre or force powers

Proof? I never remember hearing anything about how he defeating Mandalore and Yusanis. all we hear is that he defeated them. For all we know it could have been by sending in a dozen sith before hand to weaken them, then Revan walks in and shoots them with a blaster. We know nothing about how he defeated them so do not say that you do

Dueled and won against Malak (who was empowered with the force essence of several Jedi in conjuction with darkside energies of the Star Forge)

Yup I will give you that, but is Malak > Exar? No of course not, so it does not really apply

Won the Mandalorian wars

Really, Revan did the entire thing himself? No, he had an army behind him, and again you have no proof he actually did any hand to hand fighting save for Mandalore himself. My impression is that he was a tactician, and that would not help in a duel

Was a genius at engineering--> created HK

How exactly does this apply to a fight? Unless Exar is going to sit down and take a nap, allowing Revan to build HK and give HK time to shoot Exar, this does not apply.

These facts alone account for how Revan is Exar's equal at the very least.

As you can read above, no they do not

By the end of Kotor, Revan was searching for the ancient Sith empire in hopes of defeating it and ensuring the safety of the galaxy. We assume that he succeeded since the galaxy wasn't royally f***** after the events of KOTOR/KOTOR2. It's undeniable the amount of skill he picked up with his sabre, and the amount of knowledge he amassed was considerably higher than what Exar has gained. At this point it is really obvious that Revan is old Exar's superior.

In my game we never hear what Revan was searching for, just that he remembered a threat. About the galaxy being screwed over, well since KotOR III has not come out yet, you cannot assume this.

About lightsaber skill, read above, as for knowledge, also read above and the other posts

Done and Done. I shake the dust off from under my feet. 🙂

Nope not done since you have proved nothing.

QED

You have to provide the proof that Tulak wasn't the best duelist

Asking the opposition to prove a negative is a logical fallacy. I'll leave it to Illustrious to handle the rest of your nonsense.

Oh yes I forget that little detail as well