dooku and maul vs sidious

Originally posted by Jawa Lord
The ROTS contains Fallacy to the movie, damnit! How the hell would it hold more water than some EU Books that don't interfere with the Movie like the Novel did?

True that. I aint even gonna argue, the ROTS novel contradicts the movie almost the entire time. But thats expected, movie/book versions of the same story are never exact. Jurassic Park is a good example----the book came first in 1989, and in it, there were 8 more dinosaur species than in the movie and John Hammond died at the end. In the 1993 flick, the old man lives, and comes back in the 1997 sequel. Bottom Line: the book and the movie can't be identical. Besides, everyone knows that the book is always better. 'Naw mean?

Sorgo, lemme axe you a question....what EU do you consider to hold more water than the novel?

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
True that. I aint even gonna argue, the ROTS novel contradicts the movie almost the entire time. But thats expected, movie/book versions of the same story are never exact. Jurassic Park is a good example----the book came first in 1989, and in it, there were 8 more dinosaur species than in the movie and John Hammond died at the end. In the 1993 flick, the old man lives, and comes back in the 1997 sequel. Bottom Line: the book and the movie can't be identical. Besides, everyone knows that the book is always better. 'Naw mean?

Sorgo, lemme axe you a question....what EU do you consider to hold more water than the novel?

Other Novels that don't contradict the Movie.

Wouldn't that be damn-near every other novel?

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Wouldn't that be damn-near every other novel?

Yes. Except for the ROTS Novel.

I don't know. I haven't read all the Novels. I don't know what contradicts the Movies and what does not.

The only series that completely don't contracdict the movies, are the Clone Wars novels, they do a good job of keeping organization.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. Fine. We';ve still got Shadow Hunter and the earlier quote,t hough.

How would Sidious know about Vaapad in Shadow Hunter, please ? This is before TPM...

2. Mace said Vaapad mastered Sora and before Sora goes dark, Mace's tune is quite changed...how would Mace know about Sidious at all in SP? Sora manages to square off with Mace for a short time withVaapad and Mace considered him a master...he said it mastered him because he went dark

In Shatterpoint Yoda and Mace are talking in Sidious office who should be sent to deal with Depa and Mace thinks he's the only person that might be able to confront her because of Vaapad - and Sidious doesn't even know that name. And even if you want to assume that Sora was a Vaapad master (which Mace contradicts) he didn't have the time to teach it to Sidious (did he even meet Sidious ?) and even if he told Sidious about it Sidious wouldn't have the time to master it because mastering lightsaber styles takes years of intensive practice.

3. And in the novel Dooku is fighting seriously because the plan went awry. And no, mentality is a large part of fighting. Anakin was better than Dooku.

Anakin was Obi-Wan's equal as we have all seen them fighting the longest duel in the entire saga. Dooku tooled Obi-Wan in AotC and in ROTS easily. So how can you say that Anakin is the superior duellist ? Dooku is taunting him and then he's surprised by Anakin because he isn't fighting serious (he even moves different in the movie compared to AotC) and even in the novel his "serious" fighting ends when he has knocked out Obi-Wan.

4. Except there are. Because it's outright stated to happen in several cases. Because we don't understand it doesn't mean it's impossible. Jacen does it, Luke does it and Anakin does it. Luke calls up all the power of the force from all beings, planets, metal, grass....Luke did use all of the energy of the Force and Jacen did the same. They opened themselves up entirely to the Force, it's right there, written down.

If you use the entire energy of the force that would result in all lifeforms dying because you drain their life energy. Not to mention that nobody else would be able to use the force in that time because you have the entire power of it. "Opening yourself up entirely to the force" is not "using the entire force as a resource for power".