would you go to heaven if you committed suicide?

Started by DanieLs_4_Ever10 pages

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
The beauty of religion is that it does not require the people who believe in it to give "proof". They get to believe in it because...They want to.

I'm not religious at all. But in Canada (and the US) people have a right to believe what they want. And I respect that.

If someone believes that killing yourself = Hell because thats what they believe. Then thats that. They don't have to prove anything. Its a moral choice that they feel is correct.


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Originally posted by finti
problems starts when they tell others about going to hell

Yeah but he asked!

Even if there was a heaven or hell wich i deeply beleive there isn,t i think if someone has committed suicide its really upsetting because they must have been do upset by something or someone wich is not there fault & if god was supposed to be real wouldn,t he have helped the person other wise
& not to comit suicide no 1 deserves to be that unhappy that they take there own life & if they are then i blame god

According to the Catholic church and some others, it is the unforgivable sin. According to some Karma belief (I believe), You will live the same sort of life over and not progress.

I like to think this:
If I commit suicide (barring a justification like ending physical suffering from an incurable disease), then there is something that did not go right in this life (I suppose one could argue that would include the disease). Thus, I'm gonna come around again and see if I can get it right the next time.
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so you beleive in reincarnation i think it would be nice if reincarnation was true far better than heaven & Hell part of be does beleive but i also think when ya dead ya dead n maybe your spirit may linger for a bit but after that yor just a load of bones

Originally posted by sammii
so you beleive in reincarnation i think it would be nice if reincarnation was true far better than heaven & Hell part of be does beleive but i also think when ya dead ya dead n maybe your spirit may linger for a bit but after that yor just a load of bones
I don't know about reincarnation for sure either. I just know that we are all made of energy and that cannot be destroyed, so we change forms. Though I believe reincarnation would make more since.

i agree but still god is aload of crap 2 me theres so many unexlained things with god and his storys that can not be logically answered

Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever
Says me and my religion.
My belief, and the Catholic-Christian religion have all their minds to back it up. I'm not trying to make anyone believe that, I'm just stating MY own religious beliefs, just like everyone else is with their "God Is Not Real" crap.

Ok well according to Catholics you go to hell to Christians(ones who read the bible) you go to heaven so which one is it.

catohlics are christians

Originally posted by stop_sign
Ok well according to Catholics you go to hell to Christians(ones who read the bible) you go to heaven so which one is it.
It's protestant and Catholic...And there are many Protestant churches that also teach that it's the unforgivable sin and you go to hell. Only thing taught with Protestants, there is no purgatory....So, I guess you go to the depths... 😱 Fire and gnashing teeth and clawing....

I dont think you will ever know until you try it.

Originally posted by sammii
i agree but still god is aload of crap 2 me theres so many unexlained things with god and his storys that can not be logically answered

Okay, we get the point that you don't believe in God, and I understand that everyone has their own opinion, but might I ask you not come in here and say "God is a load of crap." People have feelings.

Originally posted by Dawson
In Christian religions, we do believe that heaven and hell exist.
We also believe in two types of sins: venial and mortal. A venial sin is something everyday, lying to your parents, perhaps. You can go to heaven, through purgaroty, if you have venial sins on your soul.

A mortal sin, however, is a more serious sin. Three things must be present for a sin to be considered mortal: 1) It must be a serious matter, 2) You must know that what you're doing is wrong, 3) and You must have full consent to committing the act.

1) Suicide is murder, a very serious matter.
2) By asking on a forum, you obviously know that it's wrong.
3) Once more, by asking about it on a forum, you're showing that you're not being forced into the act, so you have full consent.

Mortal sins are forvigable if one is truly sorry for them, but when you committ suicide you don't have a chance to repent. With an unforgiven mortal sin marking your soul and tearing you away from God, you cannot go to heaven.

That's years of Catholic school talking. If, stop sign, you're Catholic or Christian, there's your answer as the Church has it.

i'm christian and in the bible it says that if your saved the only one thing that God will not allow you to go to heaven is if you blaspheme against the Spirit are you saying suicide is a form of blaspheme?

Heaven is not a place we go after death.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Heaven is not a place we go after death.

In your belief.

Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever
In your belief.

The idea of heaven after death leads to evil. Just like the hijackers on 9-11, they believed they were going to heaven. Heaven after death is a tool that kings used to get common people to go to war. If people never believe in this evil idea, the world would be a different place.

Originally posted by stop_sign
i'm christian and in the bible it says that if your saved the only one thing that God will not allow you to go to heaven is if you blaspheme against the Spirit are you saying suicide is a form of blaspheme?
Yes, I know that passage, but what exactly do you think it means to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, it never says suicide. And no where in the bible does it say that people who commit suicide go to hell anyway...It's not in there.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Yes, I know that passage, but what exactly do you think it means to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, it never says suicide. And no where in the bible does it say that people who commit suicide go to hell anyway...It's not in there.

There seems to be a lot that is not there. 😄

Think about it this way. Smoking is a form of suicide, isn't it? You are killing yourself every time you smoke a ciggarette. If a Christian or Catholic smoked, and died of lung cancer caused by smoking, would they go to Heaven or Hell?

being born is a form of suicide cause in the end you die