would you go to heaven if you committed suicide?

Started by BobbyD10 pages

My guess is not because it seems to be the act where you come closest to playing God, but I don't really know. Does anyone else really? Has anyone ever come to tell us whether or not for sure which way you go? 😉

Originally posted by debbiejo
God doesn't work that way, don't you know?

And thus He can strike me down, but not you. Therefore God he is, but God you are not...

Originally posted by AOR
And thus He can strike me down, but not you. Therefore God he is, but God you are not...

God is not a he or a she. God is everything.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
God is not a he or a she. God is everything.

I contend this.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
God is not a he or a she. God is everything.

God is God, and therefore I can perceive him as I so see fit...

Originally posted by AOR
God is God, and therefore I can perceive him as I so see fit...

Nothingness can be anything you want it to be, but it is still nothingness.

To say that God is a he or a she only shows two things.

1. The god you are talking about is limited. If god is a he, god can't be a she, therefore, there are things beyond this god.

2. The bible says that no man can understand God (I am paraphrasing). Therefore the god you are perceiving is not the god of the bible.

Originally posted by AOR
And thus He can strike me down, but not you. Therefore God he is, but God you are not...
How do you know I can't strike you down...Maybe I just don't want to....BTW, Elohim in the OT didn't have a sex..not gender, so god is an IT. And we are part of IT, because we came from IT.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Nothingness can be anything you want it to be, but it is still nothingness.

To say that God is a he or a she only shows two things.

1. The god you are talking about is limited. If god is a he, god can't be a she, therefore, there are things beyond this god.

2. The bible says that no man can understand God (I am paraphrasing). Therefore the god you are perceiving is not the god of the bible.

hmmm, than howcome jesus can be his SON?

It's the language that was used at the time. Just as we all called sons/daughters of god....Using son was used to state a belonging to.

examples like:
I am the son of man (son of the human race)
Son of righteousness (doing good)

I can also say I am a daughter of righteousness, the daughter of mankind, the daughter of truth, or kindness, hopefulness, goodness, learning, the people, unrighteousness, strife. It's almost like a title on what you align yourself with.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is egotistical. God does not need. Maybe your god does need, but then he is not complete. A god that is not complete is a false god.

He is complete. He needs no one but he loves us. He chose to have us here. To worship him.

Originally posted by waiting4trotk
He is complete. He needs no one but he loves us. He chose to have us here. To worship him.

worship= submission to sumthing which u admit is higher than u n praisin it

hmmm, why wud he need people to submit n worship him when he loves them? is he some type of psychotic girlfriend of every man n woman? who cant get off without praise n worship n submission but still loves u? 🙂

Originally posted by waiting4trotk
He is complete. He needs no one but he loves us. He chose to have us here. To worship him.
god wouldn't be complete if IT needs something.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
worship= submission to sumthing which u admit is higher than u n praisin it

hmmm, why wud he need people to submit n worship him when he loves them? is he some type of psychotic girlfriend of every man n woman? who cant get off without praise n worship n submission but still loves u? 🙂

That just cracked me up. 😂 🤣 😆

God is my psychotic girlfriend. 😆

Originally posted by stop_sign
Mat 12:31-32 (NIV) "And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."

Mark 3:29-30 (NIV) "But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin."

Ok, read it and investigated. "But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.". Right.
The Holy Spirit's unpardonable sin CANNOT be something of a sinful nature because it would go against Vrs. 12:31 "And so I tell you that people can be forgiven any sin and any evil thing they say...".
In Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt not kill." So therefore it will be forgiven because these were the ten commandements.. to break them would be to sin and we have been told that our SINS are forgiven.

But the unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit. OK, We know it cannot be something sinful (above). Its not actually speaking against him, or resisting what the HS wants to do in your life because then.. you can be saved?? The sin would be that those who can clearly see who Christ is and what he has done and still refuse the fact that they need forgiveness. So therefore they are not forgiven, because they do not feel they need to be, despite everything. If they are not forgiven, then they are not saved, and if they are not saved they will not go to heaven.

So we come back to it. Commiting suicide is NOT an unforgivable sin. Therefore if you are saved and you will still go to heaven because Christ died for our sins and the moment we became saved, all our sins were forgiven.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
worship= submission to sumthing which u admit is higher than u n praisin it

hmmm, why wud he need people to submit n worship him when he loves them? is he some type of psychotic girlfriend of every man n woman? who cant get off without praise n worship n submission but still loves u? 🙂

Because he DESERVES it!! He made us, he made the universe, he sent his son to died on the cross for us. He loves us, he proved so by sending his son, but he still DESERVES to be worshipped.
So we were put on the earth for that.

Originally posted by waiting4trotk
Because he DESERVES it!! He made us, he made the universe, he sent his son to died on the cross for us. He loves us, he proved so by sending his son, but he still DESERVES to be worshipped.
So we were put on the earth for that.

The god of the bible is a limited god. A true God would not need.

Originally posted by waiting4trotk
Because he DESERVES it!! He made us, he made the universe, he sent his son to died on the cross for us. He loves us, he proved so by sending his son, but he still DESERVES to be worshipped.
So we were put on the earth for that.
When we treat others with love, that IS WORSHIPING GOD. That is what Jesus was trying to tell us.

Worship involves total and absolute devotion, and that means we give up whatever of ourselves is required. What sort of god merits such devotion?

Originally posted by debbiejo
When we treat others with love, that IS WORSHIPING GOD. That is what Jesus was trying to tell us.

God does not need. !

Originally posted by waiting4trotk
God does not need. !
Of course god does not need, I've said that....But loving others is an act of worship and respect.