full powered Cable vs Silver Surfer

Started by soleran308 pages

High level TK can matter transmute they control things at the atomic/molecular lvl..................thats why I never understand why they always make TK folks so stupid and use mostly shields and force shots.......................anything Magneto could do technically so could a high lvl TK its control over the atoms...................so technically Cable could have manipulated SS into stone...................huh we will never know.

Originally posted by soleran30
High level TK can matter transmute they control things at the atomic/molecular lvl..................thats why I never understand why they always make TK folks so stupid and use mostly shields and force shots.......................anything Magneto could do technically so could a high lvl TK its control over the atoms...................so technically Cable could have manipulated SS into stone...................huh we will never know.

I think that tk and matter manipulation is considered two seperate powers in the MU. Has any version of Cable ever tranmuted something? If not, I don't think its safe to assume that he could.

Originally posted by TheKahn
I think that tk and matter manipulation is considered two seperate powers in the MU. Has any version of Cable ever tranmuted something? If not, I don't think its safe to assume that he could.

Agreed and it's not like SS can't manipulate matter on a high level himself.

Originally posted by The Ion
Agreed and it's not like SS can't manipulate matter on a high level himself.

Its one of thoes powers that the writers rarely use and when they do its as strong as they want it to be. Just like some of the abilities of the GL rings. SS should win this.

Isn't Silver Surfer vulnerable to psy attacks?

Why can't Cable just blow up his head?

Originally posted by Murda Mase
Isn't Silver Surfer vulnerable to psy attacks?

Why can't Cable just blow up his head?

Not really, SS withstood a telepathic attack from Moondragon with the soul gem. I don't think Cable can do better than that.

Surfer doesnt really have a brain to blow up like Cable did Deadpool. Isnt his body cosmic power given form?

Originally posted by Murda Mase
Isn't Silver Surfer vulnerable to psy attacks?

Since when? lol

Originally posted by TheKahn
I think that tk and matter manipulation is considered two seperate powers in the MU. Has any version of Cable ever tranmuted something? If not, I don't think its safe to assume that he could.

Absolutly I am simply pointing out how silly people use TK in comics............................what is matter manipulation? Nothing more then arranging and rearraging molecules................................What does TK allow you to do? The same thing............they just make people go stupid with TK when really they should be hands down the most powerful people in Marvel damn near everytime................TK knows only 1 limit that would be what you can think of🙂

Anyway He broke that board like it was a stick BAM thats some serious power.

how strong is surfers TK and telepathic abilities?

Originally posted by AcousticDoc
how strong is surfers TK and telepathic abilities?

Hes the only one who threw off the Goddess's control in infinity crusade I believe.

Originally posted by AcousticDoc
how strong is surfers TK and telepathic abilities?
Strong enough to read TP resistant minds, resist TP attacks on himself, and affect the emotional well being of an entire planet. He can also transmit his thoughts anywhere in the universe. In addition, he's felt the disappearce of billions upon billions of souls during the Infinity Gauntlet saga. He's also completely resisted Mephisto's will.

Surfer's TK is really just an offshoot of the Power Cosmic. He can manipulate matter and energy on a cosmic scale. Sometimes he uses visible bursts of the power cosmic to accomplish this; other times, he simply wills the changes to happen.

he can manipulate matter and energy on a cosmic scale?! since WHEN,

Originally posted by TheKahn
I think that tk and matter manipulation is considered two seperate powers in the MU. Has any version of Cable ever tranmuted something? If not, I don't think its safe to assume that he could.
Well, at the time X-Men fought the Neo and Jean only had telepathy, she used Cables TK to transform clothes on a molekular level. I know, that this is just a low feat, but it shows , that matter transformation with Cables TK is possible and neither Cable or Jean were fatigued by that feat and Cable was not nearly at the peak of his strength at that time.

So Silver Surfer has stronger telekenetic and telepathic powers than Prof X!?

Despite his super TK abilities, Cable still can't survive without air. That means he can't exit earth's atmosphere (I doubt he'd be dense enough to avoid his molecules from seperating either). At the most, Surfer could just fly into space and rain nuclear cosmic powered blasts on the Earth until Cable is wiped out.

cable has taken point blank shots n survived, the power inside him wont let him die.

Originally posted by AcousticDoc
Despite his super TK abilities, Cable still can't survive without air. That means he can't exit earth's atmosphere (I doubt he'd be dense enough to avoid his molecules from seperating either). At the most, Surfer could just fly into space and rain nuclear cosmic powered blasts on the Earth until Cable is wiped out.
Why should Cables molecules separate in space???
What does that have to do with his density???

A the molecules of raw meat dropped in space would not separate, because there is no reason for them to do so.
A normal human dies in space (apart from cold, radiation and suffocation), because the gases within his body and body liquids, that don't experience any counter pressure from an atmosphere anymore, cause his body to rupture.
For a telekinetic, especially one of godlike Cable's caliber, it's not that difficult to keep up a pressure field of 1 atm and to separate the carbon in carbondioxide from the oxygen and so to recycle his own breath.

silver surfer does NOT have even close to the telepathic might f xavier, he only has MINOR telepathy and high level telepathic SHIELDING. xavier has broken through galactus's mental barriers before with the help of magneto.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
silver surfer does NOT have even close to the telepathic might f xavier, he only has MINOR telepathy and high level telepathic SHIELDING. xavier has broken through galactus's mental barriers before with the help of magneto.
...and even without...