full powered Cable vs Silver Surfer

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
I dont think Cable let SS win moreso than Cable knew he couldent win

Like someone said before, durring the entire fight he was asking SS why he wouldent let him finish

SS standing over cables broken body also mentioned that he has seen a cable-esque event happen before, and he wasn't going to let it happen to earth.

I guess you could argue that cable wanted it to happen, but i dont think that was the case, otherwise he wouldent have said some of the things he said,

Also, i dont think Cables durability is anywhere near SS

Yea, Cables durability is his problem in general, he is only a human mutant, whereas silver surfer is a cosmic being, and in the end is why he lost the fight, if you want to call it that.

surfer was disintegrating everything in the area at the atomic level with the force he was throwing at cable. Cable not only took it, but rebuilt the damage, while trying to talk surfer into backing down. Its this expenditure of power that wore out Cable. At that point Cable had been spreading the use of his powers on a global level for weeks if not months. This in of itself was wearing him out, and his time was nearing its end when surfer faced him.

Regardless of how the surfer won, i will agree with your first statement. It wasn't possible for cable to win that fight. not due to cables lack of power or ability, but what he was trying to accomplish. He was trying to bring peace and enlightenment to the people of earth. The only way he could have stopped surfer is if he 1, killed him, or 2, screwed with his mind. The moral situation he placed himself in wouldn't allow him to do either of these things.

As for cable not having time to concentrate on a mental attack, he had time to link their minds, which is more then enough. His power level has been shown to selectively alter memories from an entire city in an instant. If this was a simply all out battle to the death, there is nothing surfer can do to stop cable from mind wiping him or simply destroying him with a tk slam as he did to his board.

Id be curious if his tk would work past the surfers skin, on say his internal organs, as cable has used it to simply stop peoples hearts before to flat out kill them.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
i agree with the surfer part but i don't think hw was phoenix level

In a certian cable issue (i can look it up if anyone cares) professor X runs across two cable psy signatures, and worries that stryfe has returned, when in fact its X-Man or nate grey, an alternet version of Cable. Anywho, they show his power outputs next to the phoenix, to which they are practicly identical.

Their only problem is that they are only human, and cannot contain their own energies... with the exception of stryfe for some reason.

Both SS and Cable were busy reconstructing everything that they destroyed, Cable even says it himself. The energy that was vaporizing everything was from the both of them, not just SS.

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Both SS and Cable were busy reconstructing everything that they destroyed, Cable even says it himself. The energy that was vaporizing everything was from the both of them, not just SS.

Yup, they were both reconstructing the damage as they went along, Im just saying that unlike the surfer, cable cant keep up with that level of power output, and it was burning him out. Cable mentions this in the fight iteself.

Originally posted by dude189
Yea, Cables durability is his problem in general, he is only a human mutant, whereas silver surfer is a cosmic being, and in the end is why he lost the fight, if you want to call it that.

surfer was disintegrating everything in the area at the atomic level with the force he was throwing at cable. Cable not only took it, but rebuilt the damage, while trying to talk surfer into backing down. Its this expenditure of power that wore out Cable. At that point Cable had been spreading the use of his powers on a global level for weeks if not months. This in of itself was wearing him out, and his time was nearing its end when surfer faced him.

First if you actually take the time to read what is said during the fight you would see that Cable says that "WE can't keep repairing the damage" from the fight meaning that he wasn't doing it by himself. And while I won't speculate if a fully rested Cable could do any better against the Surfer, I haven't seen any feats that would convince me of that.

Originally posted by dude189

Regardless of how the surfer won, i will agree with your first statement. It wasn't possible for cable to win that fight. not due to cables lack of power or ability, but what he was trying to accomplish. He was trying to bring peace and enlightenment to the people of earth. The only way he could have stopped surfer is if he 1, killed him, or 2, screwed with his mind. The moral situation he placed himself in wouldn't allow him to do either of these things.

Cable had a plan he wanted to carry out and the Surfer stopped him. It's as simply as that all fan speculation aside. By the way, if Cable thought he was going to literally save the world I highly doubt he'd allow an alien to stop him. The idea that Cable was able to either kill to mentally attack the Surfer is pure speculation on your part and clearly shows a lack of knowledge about SS. The Surfer has, among other things, gone through a black hole, taken Blackbolt's scream, flown though the heart of a star, and has gone h2h with a being who had not only Gladiator's powers but also the Uni-power.

Originally posted by dude189

As for cable not having time to concentrate on a mental attack, he had time to link their minds, which is more then enough. His power level has been shown to selectively alter memories from an entire city in an instant. If this was a simply all out battle to the death, there is nothing surfer can do to stop cable from mind wiping him or simply destroying him with a tk slam as he did to his board.

Id be curious if his tk would work past the surfers skin, on say his internal organs, as cable has used it to simply stop peoples hearts before to flat out kill them.

The Surfer has taken a psi blast from Moondragon while she had the mind gem. Show some feats proving that Cable can come anywhere near that before you claim he can affect the Surfer.

Most of what i believe cable could to do SS wouldent be enough before he was inevitabely (sp?) crushed by SS

SS definately takes this

Cable would stand a chance against SS, He has taken more powerfull Psi's on a cosmic level and withstood them. Cable couldnt probably survive in space let alone fighting SS.