Originally posted by Dizzle He ended up beating them at their own game though. Even high end telepaths would be vulnerable to TP, if they don't defend themselves, just as a master martial artist is still vulnerable to getting stabbed in the back. Surfer was basically blindsided, but caught his bearings and overwhelmed all of them. I'm pretty sure those aliens were all very powerful psionically, too.
Problem with that though is that there is no indication of just how powerful those aliens were. They could've been weaker or stronger and there is also the fact that they just wanted surfer to leave and not die. Of course, there's no doubt surfer trumped them but if they're intentions were even more malicious, surfer could've been turned into a vegetable. Cable is a high end telepath no doubt, if this match is based on the first draw, it could be either him or SS. SS being with his matter manipulation and Cable with his TP, and unlike the aliens TP, Cable has common knowledge if SS can fight back and by the looks in that scan, it took some time for SS to rally his TP. The question would now be, who has the higher TP ability?
Originally posted by AcousticDoc
Couldn't Surfer just release 99% of all his stored cosmic energy at once to create an explosion that would deccipmate anything within a large area? I can't image god cable resisting an attack like that.
I don't think Cable would have the energy to have a stamina fight as noted earlier in this thread by poster nathaniel summers.................................in a straight up match if Cable put his mind to it Surfer should go down if there was a limited time for the conflict the longer it lasts the greater the chance surfer can win.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
that arm was just class 20, nuthin big, biomachenical, cable didnt put up a shield or he cud have easily stopped it, even with all the hindrences he broke surfer's board with just a thought, surfer wud get owned badly if cable was goin all out.
100% opinion. Support it.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
100% opinion. Support it.
u just have to poke ur nose in if its me dont u?
that arm was a replacement of his normal suprehuman class 10 arm with slight superhuman durabilty{of any1 in the class 10 category} due to the technoorganic virus that he was infected with. it was made of organic metal, nuthing more, and as stated in his old marvel official bio{there is no cable bio right now i believe} the arm had class 20 strength, it was biomachenical, nuthin else, it, like cable's body was just slighlty powerful as far as superhumans go, superhuman durability of class 20 was given for his technoorganic part of the body, n theres no reason to believe that it was more, cable is a psionic basically, not a superdurable guy, he has class 10/20, durabilty for hsi body n the arm wasnt more durable than any strong metal{not like adamantium or vibranium} without cable puttin up a shield it wud be easy for surfer, but lets not forget that cable has taken gunshots before n lived cause the awesome power in him wont let him die. n since he wasnt mortally wounded, that can be counted out n it becomes reasonable that it wasnt a huge feat at all to destroy his arm, he was unprepared, he didnt put up his shiled which surfer wudnt be able to penetrate.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
u just have to poke ur nose in if its me dont u?that arm was a replacement of his normal suprehuman class 10 arm with slight superhuman durabilty{of any1 in the class 10 category} due to the technoorganic virus that he was infected with. it was made of organic metal, nuthing more, and as stated in his old marvel official bio{there is no cable bio right now i believe} the arm had class 20 strength, it was biomachenical, nuthin else, it, like cable's body was just slighlty powerful as far as superhumans go, superhuman durability of class 20 was given for his technoorganic part of the body, n theres no reason to believe that it was more, cable is a psionic basically, not a superdurable guy, he has class 10/20, durabilty for hsi body n the arm wasnt more durable than any strong metal{not like adamantium or vibranium} without cable puttin up a shield it wud be easy for surfer, but lets not forget that cable has taken gunshots before n lived cause the awesome power in him wont let him die. n since he wasnt mortally wounded, that can be counted out n it becomes reasonable that it wasnt a huge feat at all to destroy his arm, he was unprepared, he didnt put up his shiled which surfer wudnt be able to penetrate.
How do you know he wouldn't be able to penetrate it?
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
I wouldn't be surprised. If you guys read the comic again, you'll notice cable was multi-tasking while fighting surfer and his attention wasn't fully concentrated at him.
They were both holding back. cable was holding up the island and rebuilding the damage.
Surfer was holding back and rebuilding the damage.
I'd like to see a rematch with them going full out one of these days. But considering Cable currently is powerless it might take a few years if they ever decide to have them fight again.
Originally posted by soleran30
How do you know he would🙂 Actually if Cable had a brain he shouldn't shield himself but should shield SS so whenever he goes to do some cosmic attack it bounces back at himself lol
I don't. Which is why the guys theory is just a guess. He may or may not be able to penetrate it. Never proven he can or couldn't.
Why does everyone keep saying that cable was multi tasking and this other crap.Surfer was also multi tasking by fixing all the damage they where causing.The bottom line is surfer got serious for one sec and it was more then enough to down cable.Everyone can argue all they want that it was pis whatever.Cable got beat in his own comic by someone that the fantastic four knew was capable of beating Cable.
No one has a good arguement why CAble would beat Surfer there all opinions and what not.
The thing is that Cable wasn't trying to fight Surfer. There's the difference. Surfer was trying to take Cable down, but Cable wasn't trying to take Surfer down. Saying why he didn't do this or that is moot, because he didn't want to fight.
Didn't Cable also take control of the island back from Rachel after Surfer took him down?
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
The thing is that Cable wasn't trying to fight Surfer. There's the difference. Surfer was trying to take Cable down, but Cable wasn't trying to take Surfer down. Saying why he didn't do this or that is moot, because he didn't want to fight.Didn't Cable also take control of the island back from Rachel after Surfer took him down?
surfer was trying to make him submit. he wasn't trying to kill him.
neither was fighting at their peaks.
Yet a holding back surfer not trying to kill or seriously harm him took him down.
And Cable was trying to take him down at the finale moments when he realized he didn't come all this way to be taken down. And he still lost.
He knocked Surfer around and broke his board but the surfer got back up and eye blasted him. He rebuilt his board and took away Cables powers and was out of the shields tracking in just three panels.
The reason Cable got his powers back was because Deadpool used a device to to jump start it for a few seconds to allow Cable to bring the Island down safely. Cable was left a drooling vegetable moments later.
Cable didn’t want to fight SS all out, SS was trying to submit Cable; both were holding back. The one time Cable got serious was to give a warning shot, aiming at the SS board. By braking the board maybe Cable would convince SS to stop his assault.
And here is were he Cables claims the no “Human” can with stand the stress that his psionic powers put out.
I stand behind my claim that if the fight was to take place in the astral plane were Cable isn’t hindered to his human weakness and let lose his true psionic potential the match with SS would have a much harder time dealing with him.
Originally posted by id369
Cable didn’t want to fight SS all out, SS was trying to submit Cable; both were holding back. The one time Cable got serious was to give a warning shot, aiming at the SS board. By braking the board maybe Cable would convince SS to stop his assault.And here is were he Cables claims the no “Human” can with stand the stress that his psionic powers put out.
I stand behind my claim that if the fight was to take place in the astral plane were Cable isn’t hindered to his human weakness and let lose his true psionic potential the match with SS would have a much harder time dealing with him.
The moment Surfer got serious for a second he simply got up and simply eye blasted him and took away his powers relatively easy.
I still want to see a rematch between these two in few years. Have the fight take up at least one full book with them going at full power.
