Did I not understand the comic? Because it strikes me as very uncharacteristic of SS when he blasted cable and took away his power then leaving off into space. I mean...with cable knocked out...you still got a freaking island taht's about to collapse...
*On a side note, I also found it strange that they had to contact silver surfer when dr. strange could have put cable down.
Cable actually let go of the island, btw... Rachel took over for him midway through the fight, becasue he couldn't keep all of it up. Both were repairing damage. Surfer blasted him a total of once in the whole fight, even though that's pretty much how he fights everyone who he's really trying to put down. It's pretty clear that both were holding back.
Why was Cable though? He was extremely dedicated, and I doubt he'd hold back from hurting someone else who was trying to stop him. It's even possible that he wasn't trying to fight SS because he knew he couldn't win. The whole time, he was asking Surfer why SS wouldn't let him finish his goal and whatnot... It's always a possiblity.
All in all, Surfer wins, with or without his godly speed. His matter manipulation is well beyond Cable's, and he has been shown to have some good psionic defense before. (again, he didn't even know the aliens were there... he was caught unawares, and so wasn't trying to resist when they balsted him) Cable is much less durable. Surfer has a variety of basically instant kill moves that he could pull, while a win for Cable would require a good bit of work.
lets ask ourselves how many people have in the past destroyed surfer's board, i can only think of morg and galactus, and morg did it after a long continuous fight and that fight destroyed a planet btw. it is said that nuthing short of galactus's power can harm the board at all n surfer did it with just a lil oncentration.{btw any1 who has ever destroyed the board was stronger than surfer. surfer was serious from the beginning, speed blitzing cable{on the board} through a ton of scenarios n not even listening to him, cable didnt want to fight, he made that very clear, he was continuously restoring the awesome damage they were doing, mostly by himself{proving that his matter manipulation abilities are at the very least proven to be equal to surfer's} he was also holding back as usual because his awesome power could destroy everything n he wudnt be able to control it. he was also telepathically in contact with the surfer's mind{which proves that he is powerdul enough to break through herald level telepathic resistance, n btw xavier broke through galactus's mental barriers n xavier is a lot weaker than cable. and in the end when surfer destroyed the arm, it wasnt a huge feat at all because of the reasons i have mentioned before, cable didnt have his shield up, if he did, surfer wudnt be able to penetrate it at all, seeing as cable has shown greater power than surfer even in this fight.
Xavier didn't break down Galactus' barriers.B is automaticaly connected to any mind he comes in contact with.How do you think he and surfer knew english when they came to earth?Also Galactus threw X out of his head and had to help his astral form get back to his body.Any way as strong as Cable is he's still no match for surfer as he one shotted him.And he was holding back also.When has surfer ever tried to kill someone he thought was good but misguided coughhulkcough.He didn't use his hand energy blasts that he always uses when he's serious.
Originally posted by superbatman86
Xavier didn't break down Galactus' barriers.B is automaticaly connected to any mind he comes in contact with.How do you think he and surfer knew english when they came to earth?Also Galactus threw X out of his head and had to help his astral form get back to his body.Any way as strong as Cable is he's still no match for surfer as he one shotted him.And he was holding back also.When has surfer ever tried to kill someone he thought was good but misguided coughhulkcough.He didn't use his hand energy blasts that he always uses when he's serious.
unfounded baseless oppinion just like all other surfer supporters here, none of my points have been succesfully countered n oppinions are given while avoiding my argument. cable wins.
okay, I just have to chip in here... you guys know Cable not only let surfer win, but wanted him to win in the first place right?
The entire point of that story arch was Cable trying to make a mytar of himself to unite the world.
A couple of points here, surfer's skin is made of the same compound as his board, cable could have just as easily attacked surfer with that destructive attack finishing the fight there. Secondly, surfer is not immune to psionics or mental attacks. He is highly resistance to mind control and such due to his willpower, but not near immune. there was nothing stopping Nate from frying his mind or toying with him mentally.
Cable went into that fight with the intention of loosing.
Nate's power-levels rival the phoenix, which in turn has tuned galactis in the past, surfers creator.
Originally posted by dude189
okay, I just have to chip in here... you guys know Cable not only let surfer win, but wanted him to win in the first place right?The entire point of that story arch was Cable trying to make a mytar of himself to unite the world.
A couple of points here, surfer's skin is made of the same compound as his board, cable could have just as easily attacked surfer with that destructive attack finishing the fight there. Secondly, surfer is not immune to psionics or mental attacks. He is highly resistance to mind control and such due to his willpower, but not near immune. there was nothing stopping Nate from frying his mind or toying with him mentally.
Cable went into that fight with the intention of loosing.
Nate's power-levels rival the phoenix, which in turn has tuned galactis in the past, surfers creator.
u make good arguments my friend
Originally posted by dude189
okay, I just have to chip in here... you guys know Cable not only let surfer win, but wanted him to win in the first place right?The entire point of that story arch was Cable trying to make a mytar of himself to unite the world.
A couple of points here, surfer's skin is made of the same compound as his board, cable could have just as easily attacked surfer with that destructive attack finishing the fight there. Secondly, surfer is not immune to psionics or mental attacks. He is highly resistance to mind control and such due to his willpower, but not near immune. there was nothing stopping Nate from frying his mind or toying with him mentally.
Cable went into that fight with the intention of loosing.
Nate's power-levels rival the phoenix, which in turn has tuned galactis in the past, surfers creator.
Originally posted by dude189nice but none of these things are true,
okay, I just have to chip in here... you guys know Cable not only let surfer win, but wanted him to win in the first place right?The entire point of that story arch was Cable trying to make a mytar of himself to unite the world.
A couple of points here, surfer's skin is made of the same compound as his board, cable could have just as easily attacked surfer with that destructive attack finishing the fight there. Secondly, surfer is not immune to psionics or mental attacks. He is highly resistance to mind control and such due to his willpower, but not near immune. there was nothing stopping Nate from frying his mind or toying with him mentally.
Cable went into that fight with the intention of loosing.
Nate's power-levels rival the phoenix, which in turn has tuned galactis in the past, surfers creator.
Cable did not let surfer win anything, he was beaten fair and square, he knew he would lose, in order for cable to do a mental attack on surfer he would have to concentrate for a longer amount of time than surfer would ever give him, and he broke surfers board....that isnt such a great feat, it has been done before and yet surfer has still beat those guys.
cable is strong but he cant tangle with the herald of galactus, his biggest weapon is nullified.
Originally posted by dude189
okay, I just have to chip in here... you guys know Cable not only let surfer win, but wanted him to win in the first place right?The entire point of that story arch was Cable trying to make a mytar of himself to unite the world.
A couple of points here, surfer's skin is made of the same compound as his board, cable could have just as easily attacked surfer with that destructive attack finishing the fight there. Secondly, surfer is not immune to psionics or mental attacks. He is highly resistance to mind control and such due to his willpower, but not near immune. there was nothing stopping Nate from frying his mind or toying with him mentally.
Cable went into that fight with the intention of loosing.
Nate's power-levels rival the phoenix, which in turn has tuned galactis in the past, surfers creator.
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Here are the scans of the fight from the Cable respect thread. From them I can't really see how people think Cable was "winning" in any way, shape, or fashion. He did get in one shot and also managed to break the Surfer's board (both of which do not put Cable in the Surfer league). At the end of the fight it was Cable laying in a pool of his own blood.
I dont think Cable let SS win moreso than Cable knew he couldent win
Like someone said before, durring the entire fight he was asking SS why he wouldent let him finish
SS standing over cables broken body also mentioned that he has seen a cable-esque event happen before, and he wasnt going to let it happen to earth.
I guess you could argue that cable wanted it to happen, but i dont think that was the case, otherwise he wouldent have said some of the things he said,
Also, i dont think Cables durability is anywhere near SS
