JESUS DYIN FOR HUMANITY, GOD LOVING YOU, all pure CRAP

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Mr Brightside Your soul.

Originally posted by Gregory
Because I'm not an immoral psycopath. Unlike your invisible friend in the sky.

I'm sorry, I don't undestand, without god there is no moral. No God and Devil. No Good and Evil. Because GOD is GOOD.
Originally posted by Gregory
Are you admitting that you're an immoral man who'd rape and kill and murder if you weren't afraid of being punished? How nice of you; many Christians aren't so honest.

1. I am admitting that life has no moral when the only thing creating it is a tiny creature called a human on a small planet called earth.
2. And I am not immoral as I do what god commands without really thinking of the punishment, i do it because he sent his only son to die for me.

I don't have to believe you exist, over my side of the net i have no proof of your existance except these words you type.

Mr Brightside Your soul.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Why is there something wrong with me?? 😑

I've only tried to bring up the needing and wanting this god wants. It's a psychological need. People need to be needed and wanted for self esteem, and self worth. Basing their self worth on what others give them instead of having it from within. Now why would a god need it's self worth stroked?....Answer? It wouldn't. So, god doesn't need anything from anyone, if it's truly a god.

It doesn't need to be worshipped or needed.

*sigh* Look, you, as a human, have just painted a brilliant picture and you adore this picture and you want it so much you technically NEED it.
That's kind of what happened when god made us, it's like smoking but it's not bad for you 😕

finti Senior Member

I'm sorry, I don't undestand, without god there is no moral. No God and Devil. No Good and Evil. Because GOD is GOOD.
bullshit, many societies had moral standings long before they even heard of the judo christian god

Gregory International Sex Symbol

You don't understand, Brightside? Probably not; why should you start understanding now, so far into this conversation?

I don't know what your denomination is, but even Saint Thomas Aquinas admitted, I think, that morality doesn't come from God..

Storm Black belt BJJ

Originally posted by Mr Brightside
I'm sorry, I don't undestand, without god there is no moral. No God and Devil. No Good and Evil. Because GOD is GOOD.

Morality doesn' t require religion. If god came down and told us that it wanted us to steal, lie, ... would you do it? Or would you continue on as a good person regardless of what a god might or might not tell you? If the latter, then you are a moral person and the god you believe in is ultimately irrelevant to your morality. If the former, then you aren' t actually a moral person, you are just "obeying orders" from a being more powerful than you.

My consideration for other people is not based upon what some god tells me to do.

debbiejo Dreamer

Originally posted by Mr Brightside
*sigh* Look, you, as a human, have just painted a brilliant picture and you adore this picture and you want it so much you technically NEED it.
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But that's the way it REALLY is. You're giving god human qualities when it should be above them.

Mr Brightside Your soul.

Originally posted by Storm
Morality doesn' t require religion. If god came down and told us that it wanted us to steal, lie, ... would you do it? Or would you continue on as a good person regardless of what a god might or might not tell you? If the latter, then you are a moral person and the god you believe in is ultimately irrelevant to your morality. If the former, then you aren' t actually a moral person, you are just "obeying orders" from a being more powerful than you.

My consideration for other people is not based upon what some god tells me to do.


And when did a small human have control over what is right and wrong?

Anyway, don't you do what a being more powerful tells you to do everyday (World leaders etc) ? And why do you abide by these rules? Because if you don't you will go to jail or be punished. But I on the other hand obey both.

God wouldn't tell us to steal and lie, so i would know that it was actually a demon. And if the leader of your country said you was allowed to steal, kill, take drugs... Would you do it?

Originally posted by debbiejo
But that's the way it REALLY is. You're giving god human qualities when it should be above them.

And when did you decide what qualities a god should have?

Gregory International Sex Symbol
Originally posted by Mr Brightside
God wouldn't tell us to steal and lie, so i would know that it was actually a demon.

He once told a man to murder his son. How about it, Brightside? If God came down and ordered you to butcher your family, would you do it?

Mr Brightside Your soul.

Originally posted by Gregory
He once told a man to murder his son. How about it, Brightside? If God came down and ordered you to butcher your family, would you do it?

No, because the bible clearly states that murdering is not allowed, and that god would sometimes prefer you to say NO, like when you want to be pursuaded out of something.

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Originally posted by Mr Brightside
No, because the bible clearly states that murdering is not allowed, and that god would sometimes prefer you to say NO, like when you want to be pursuaded out of something.

God commanded the Jews to kill men, women and children in the OT.

sithsaber408 Intelligently Designed
Originally posted by Gregory
He once told a man to murder his son. How about it, Brightside? If God came down and ordered you to butcher your family, would you do it?

God tested his faith in that story.

He never would have allowed the actual killing of Isaac, (point of fact he didn't), but he wanted to see where Abraham's heart was at.

I have no clue as to how I would react to God testing me that way. I would like to say that I will always obey the Lord, but.....

And that wouldn't happen now anyway. He was preparing to make Abraham the father of the nation of Israel (occording to the OT) and was testing his mettle.

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Originally posted by sithsaber408
God tested his faith in that story.

He never would have allowed the actual killing of Isaac, (point of fact he didn't), but he wanted to see where Abraham's heart was at.

I have no clue as to how I would react to God testing me that way. I would like to say that I will always obey the Lord, but.....

And that wouldn't happen now anyway. He was preparing to make Abraham the father of the nation of Israel (occording to the OT) and was testing his mettle.

Buddha said, when asked about killing, If you can give back a person's life, you can take it.

sithsaber408 Intelligently Designed
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Buddha said, when asked about killing, If you can give back a person's life, you can take it.

Budda was truly an enlightened man and very intelligent as well as insightfull. 🙂

finti Senior Member

Originally posted by Gregory
He once told a man to murder his son. How about it, Brightside? If God came down and ordered you to butcher your family, would you do it?
I would have given that god some serious ass whopping

Mr Brightside Your soul.

Originally posted by finti
I would have given that god some serious ass whopping

How? Would you have started punching the air? 🙂

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Originally posted by Mr Brightside
How? Would you have started punching the air? 🙂

That is not how you kill a god, you kill all of the followers, and anyone who speaks of that god you send away. Just ask the Chinese.

debbiejo Dreamer

Ask the Pharaohs.....That's how they would get erased too.

finti Senior Member

How? Would you have started punching the air?
well a conceited god as this judo christian god is has its flaws and that flaw is ego. So to make all follow a different god would be to whoop his ass, and eventually kill this god, cause when people stop believe in a god that god dies

debbiejo Dreamer

Originally posted by Mr Brightside
And when did you decide what qualities a god should have?
I didn't decide it. To have such an ego of needing and wanting from others instead of being "Whole and complete in ones self" would be a character flaw. The god mentioned in scripture is flawed emotionally and in character because it's needy and not self supportive.

AOR The King
Originally posted by finti
bullshit, many societies had moral standings long before they even heard of the judo christian god

You believe in a conscience, Finti? And seriously, I'm not talking about the Jiminy cricket at your heels, or the angel/devil on your shoulder, or even the voice in the back of your head. I'm talking about the genuine know it or not good/bad decider conscience? You know it, finti?