Re: JESUS DYIN FOR HUMANITY, GOD LOVING YOU, all pure CRAP
Originally posted by leonheartmm
what makes it that different from any other guy dyin in pain, he was crucified big deal, other people have been crucified, n many others have gone through much MUCH worse, i mean is is bein nailed to the cross n starvin really even close ot enough pain or sufferance for HUMANIY'S sins? many many people have suffered more in life.
But were other people who died in pain doing so for sole purpose of others out of pure selflessness? No.
Re: Re: JESUS DYIN FOR HUMANITY, GOD LOVING YOU, all pure CRAP
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
But were other people who died in pain doing so for sole purpose of others out of pure selflessness? No.
wrong answer. many MANY people die for the cause of others and the human race, youve obviously been living in utopia my friend.
well i dont believe in god yet i still live by morals and dont do BAD in any sense of the word. so either i exist and god really isnt the dicater of right n wrong n both exist without him OR im lying and am a murdering/raping/stealing bastard who doesnt really care about any1 else n am just posting here to stray the truly GOOD christians from their path. pick one, cause both cant exist at the same time.
Re: JESUS DYIN FOR HUMANITY, GOD LOVING YOU, all pure CRAP
Originally posted by leonheartmm
think about it, christians hype up the death of jesus{not an hitorically proven fact but a relegious orientated one only given the dominion of fact by christian governments} to be this great act of sacrifice, but THINK ABOUT IT, what makes it that different from any other guy dyin in pain, he was crucified big deal, other people have been crucified, n many others have gone through much MUCH worse, i mean is is bein nailed to the cross n starvin really even close ot enough pain or sufferance for HUMANIY'S sins? many many people have suffered more in life. secondly god is said to love his creation but wont but will send them to hell if they dont worship or believe in his{neither of which wud mean CRAP to an omnipotent god} existance or power or soverignity, isnt that RIDICULOUS, its like burnin ants if they dont worship u any day, also even a MOTHER would die for a child that has given her misery all her life, her child can do the most hurtful things but a real mother would never stop loving him let alone punish him severely{a piunishment which can not even come close to matching HELL} n lets not forget that she is an imperfect HUMAN, who has limits to her patience/love etc, as stated by god, but seeing as sh FAR surpasses god in mercy, love n kindness, doesnt that render void, the claim that god IS LOVE? seeing as a human easily shows more love than god.
Ok i disagree wit you alot of. Look man, dont you even know wut Jesus went through before getting nailed? If you are so interested in knowin, i suggest you read the bible. NOBOBDY!!! has gone through worse things than jesus did, ask anyone who is into the christianity/catholic religion becuz that religion is the most popular according to the record books so youre one of the people or should i say few people that would say somethin like that. Yo God wuz the one that told jesus to die for all our sins and thats a fact period! YO and the part where you wuz talkin about a mother dyin for her child is nothin compared to wut jesus went through. Jesus took the worst hits, beating, whips, emotion abuse, and everything. He wuz hurt emotionally than physically actually and that should hurt alot. Jesus had lots of love to people, and it dosent matter how much we love, it dosent mean crap about you sayin about youre theory of jesus. Jus think about it.
Originally posted by JacopeX
Ok i disagree wit you alot of. Look man, dont you even know wut Jesus went through before getting nailed? If you are so interested in knowin, i suggest you read the bible. NOBOBDY!!! has gone through worse things than jesus did, ask anyone who is into the christianity/catholic religion becuz that religion is the most popular according to the record books so youre one of the people or should i say few people that would say somethin like that. Yo God wuz the one that told jesus to die for all our sins and thats a fact period! YO and the part where you wuz talkin about a mother dyin for her child is nothin compared to wut jesus went through. Jesus took the worst hits, beating, whips, emotion abuse, and everything. He wuz hurt emotionally than physically actually and that should hurt alot. Jesus had lots of love to people, and it dosent matter how much we love, it dosent mean crap about you sayin about youre theory of jesus. Jus think about it.
Originally posted by EisI still disagree, people on earth would neva eva eva go through worse than Jesus. Yea, theres people in thailand that have this special holiday where they whip themselves to get the forgivness from god for all there sins. Theres one man, i forgot his name that nails himself every year to a cross and hes done it 15 times in a row which makes his forgiving method complete. But thats still nothin. I havent heard nothin worse than Jesus christ's torture
I disagree with you, if the things that they say in the bible are true. Yes, Jesus suffered a shitload but there are MILLIONS of people who have suffered way more.
wrong again man. people have their nails and teeth pulled out without anesthetics, their hair pulled out of their roots, tied for days upside down so the blood gets to their brains. are tortued by slow painful breaking of joints and then damage on damages areas, given electric shocks so powerful and overwhelming that their own muscle contractions and mental overload breaks their OWN bones. their tongues are cut slowly, their limbs are sawed off without anesthetics wile their eyelids are forced open for them to SEE what is going on to them, people's genitals are cut off while they see everything, their boned slowly sawed off. women's nipples cut, their own people and family, children n all {even babies} going through similar torture infront of their own eyes} and other people coated with honey and left for red ants to slowly, venemously devour them, they r bitten by snakes and scorpios and given no drus theyr splattered with acids and children are raped and murdered infront of their parents and siblings. i cud keep on going as the list is never ending, but im sure u get the picture, jesus suffered NUTHIN compared to many other people in the world{that is MILLIONS of people} and many of em suffer it for decades, unrelentlessly, they have to live in cells filled with their own vomit and body watses for their entire lives without having even done anythin.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
wrong again man. people have their nails and teeth pulled out without anesthetics, their hair pulled out of their roots, tied for days upside down so the blood gets to their brains. are tortued by slow painful breaking of joints and then damage on damages areas, given electric shocks so powerful and overwhelming that their own muscle contractions and mental overload breaks their OWN bones. their tongues are cut slowly, their limbs are sawed off without anesthetics wile their eyelids are forced open for them to SEE what is going on to them, people's genitals are cut off while they see everything, their boned slowly sawed off. women's nipples cut, their own people and family, children n all {even babies} going through similar torture infront of their own eyes} and other people coated with honey and left for red ants to slowly, venemously devour them, they r bitten by snakes and scorpios and given no drus theyr splattered with acids and children are raped and murdered infront of their parents and siblings. i cud keep on going as the list is never ending, but im sure u get the picture, jesus suffered NUTHIN compared to many other people in the world{that is MILLIONS of people} and many of em suffer it for decades, unrelentlessly, they have to live in cells filled with their own vomit and body watses for their entire lives without having even done anythin.
Originally posted by leonheartmmwell problem is, who, not many and I douibt that anyone went through all that stuff or most of that stuff at once. Jesus christ went through more than everyone period
wrong again man. people have their nails and teeth pulled out without anesthetics, their hair pulled out of their roots, tied for days upside down so the blood gets to their brains. are tortued by slow painful breaking of joints and then damage on damages areas, given electric shocks so powerful and overwhelming that their own muscle contractions and mental overload breaks their OWN bones. their tongues are cut slowly, their limbs are sawed off without anesthetics wile their eyelids are forced open for them to SEE what is going on to them, people's genitals are cut off while they see everything, their boned slowly sawed off. women's nipples cut, their own people and family, children n all {even babies} going through similar torture infront of their own eyes} and other people coated with honey and left for red ants to slowly, venemously devour them, they r bitten by snakes and scorpios and given no drus theyr splattered with acids and children are raped and murdered infront of their parents and siblings. i cud keep on going as the list is never ending, but im sure u get the picture, jesus suffered NUTHIN compared to many other people in the world{that is MILLIONS of people} and many of em suffer it for decades, unrelentlessly, they have to live in cells filled with their own vomit and body watses for their entire lives without having even done anythin.
oh right and all the sins of man's past,present and future COMBINED came up to nothing more than a crown of thorn, nails been driven through your hands and feat and you bein left to die hungry on a cros a for a couple of days with a spear to finish me off? please dont make me laugh{either that or mankind is filled with SAINTS}
and as for jacopX your very very wrong. MILLIONS if not billions{debateable} have gone through those tortures. many of em atleast definately more than christ.
Re: Re: JESUS DYIN FOR HUMANITY, GOD LOVING YOU, all pure CRAP
Originally posted by JacopeXAnd how would you know this? The inquisitions were far more worse...How being skinned alive, boiled alive in oil, having you family tortured in front of you, having your babies bashed against the wall until dead before your eyes, being drawn and quartered, having your intestines connected to a wheel and slowly pulled out of you, having the dead tied to your back rotting until you start to rot also...etc, etc, etc.....
Ok i disagree wit you alot of. Look man, dont you even know wut Jesus went through before getting nailed? If you are so interested in knowin, i suggest you read the bible. NOBOBDY!!! has gone through worse things than jesus did,
n if u want proof of such things happenin all u have to do is open ur eyes a lil and look at vietnam, most of undeveloped africa, the central asian genocides, mexico, many parts of south america, ireland etc. there are many MANY examples. hey NOT TO MENTION WHAT THE CHURCH DID SECRETLY OR PUBLICALY TO ANY WHO DEFIED IT IN THE MIDEIVAL TIMES.