Silverspider/Dizzle's Team Tournament: Round 1, Fight 6- ScarletSpider vs. stormfront

Originally posted by leonidas
i'm not keen on the way sf is fighting this -- seems like not everything is completely kosher, but i can't tell just how MUCH is off, nor do i like the seeming double team with mungi clarifying and supporting sf so much. these should be limited to input from the participants -- if THEY don't know what a character is or is not capable of, or if THEY can't back up a claim, then . . . tough sh!t. pick someone you know better.

I have helped 4 seperate people for this tournament I have not picked favorites. I havn't even told what SF needs to do fight this round, just correcting errors. If no one wants me to do that, than say so.

I know the most of Alpha Flight on the whole board, hence why I know my stuff concerning Aurora and Vindicator. Would you perfer someone who doesn't know what their talking about?

Originally posted by stormfront13
considering we're the people who are bascally running the way our team fights, then creating a whirlwind is completley plausible. AOA aurora has tons of expierence with her powers...she was one of apocolypse's elite force afterall.

Bull and shit storm , by your 'theory' i should be able to take down twenty men in a fistfight because i am human and therefore it's plausible for me to have learnt kung fu .......oh wait I HAVEN'T !!!

We go by feats from comics in the correct dimension

Storms bullshit theories get the gas face 👇

Originally posted by grey fox
Bull and shit storm , by your 'theory' i should be able to take down twenty men in a fistfight because i am human and therefore it's plausible for me to have learnt kung fu .......oh wait I HAVEN'T !!!

We go by feats from comics [B]in the correct dimension

Storms bullshit theories get the gas face 👇

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Agreed

I do not like how Stormfront is handling this. He constantly argues that he can use the feats of 616 Aurora, even though they aren't the same character, and 616 Aurora was BANNED. In the same way you can't use feats of characters from other dimensions in Versus Forums, you can't use them here. ACCEPT IT, and don't argue. It's your problem if AOA Aurora hasn't done the same feats. But you can't use 616. And I also recall that Mimic didn't do the sandstorm, but what does it matter, since half of Northstars speed was banned anyway.

But then again, ScarletSpider seems to make this as it's a joke. His plan isn't really well thought.

So stormfront gets my vote, even though I think that ScarletSpider could have thought something better if he tried.

Originally posted by grey fox
Bull and shit storm , by your 'theory' i should be able to take down twenty men in a fistfight because i am human and therefore it's plausible for me to have learnt kung fu .......oh wait I HAVEN'T !!!

We go by feats from comics [B]in the correct dimension

Storms bullshit theories get the gas face 👇

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no, your completley not getting it. you can't take down 20 men because you don't have the strength, nor technique to do it. aurora on the other hand does have the skill and technique and strength to perform something similar as 616 aurora. it isn't really that hard to grasp, i can't believe no one understands. if 616 aurora creates a whirlwind, using only her speed, then what is stopping AOA aurora from doing something similar? i have never said that they would do completley the same thing, but if one can spin around using her super-speed, then why can't the other?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I do not like how Stormfront is handling this. He constantly argues that he can use the feats of 616 Aurora, even though they [b]aren't the same character, and 616 Aurora was BANNED. In the same way you can't use feats of characters from other dimensions in Versus Forums, you can't use them here. ACCEPT IT, and don't argue. It's your problem if AOA Aurora hasn't done the same feats. But you can't use 616. And I also recall that Mimic didn't do the sandstorm, but what does it matter, since half of Northstars speed was banned anyway.

But then again, ScarletSpider seems to make this as it's a joke. His plan isn't really well thought.

So stormfront gets my vote, even though I think that ScarletSpider could have thought something better if he tried. [/B]

i'll say the same thing here. using 616 speed feats when they both have around the same speed is fine. if 616 can spin around and create a whirlwind then why can't AOA do something similar. it may have sounded like i was asying they would do the excat same thing, but i didn't mean it like that, i meant that AOA could do something similar. i'm just posting the pictures of 616 to show that aoa could do something similar to that, like creating a whirlwind, or blinding someone, or speedblitzing someone.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I have helped 4 seperate people for this tournament I have not picked favorites. I havn't even told what SF needs to do fight this round, just correcting errors. If no one wants me to do that, than say so.

okay, i'm saying it. 😛

I know the most of Alpha Flight on the whole board, hence why I know my stuff concerning Aurora and Vindicator. Would you perfer someone who doesn't know what their talking about?

maybe you do, that's not the point. but it doesn't matter WHAT you know. this is SF's battle, not yours. the point of these things is to let the competitor fight so it comes down to whether HE knows his stuff. and since he's the one fighting if he DOES, good for him, if he doesn't, well . . . he's screwed.

i've seen similar things in other fights. now if SF pulls some bullshit that you know about, THEN by all means pipe up and say something. imo you just need to be careful how much info you give out -- as does everyone.

Originally posted by stormfront13
no, your completley not getting it. you can't take down 20 men because you don't have the strength, nor technique to do it. aurora on the other hand does have the skill and technique and strength to perform something similar as 616 aurora. it isn't really that hard to grasp, i can't believe no one understands. if 616 aurora creates a whirlwind, using only her speed, then what is stopping AOA aurora from doing something similar? i have never said that they would do completley the same thing, but if one can spin around using her super-speed, then why can't the other?

Ok then i'll break it down into itty bitty little chunks for you too understand

616 aurora - BANNED - reasons include : Hypnosis and unknown speed ( it could be more then quicksilver for all we know ?)

AOA aurora - NOT BANNED- reasons include - Under speed caps and no hypnosis .

AOA power's are weaker then 616 , so posting feats that 616 have done are stupid and pushing your luck.

Originally posted by stormfront13
i'll say the same thing here. using 616 speed feats when they both have around the same speed is fine. if 616 can spin around and create a whirlwind then why can't AOA do something similar. it may have sounded like i was asying they would do the excat same thing, but i didn't mean it like that, i meant that AOA could do something similar. i'm just posting the pictures of 616 to show that aoa could do something similar to that, like creating a whirlwind, or blinding someone, or speedblitzing someone.

Ok storm heres an 'example'

Of course since it's an example it must be the same as this example....

Originally posted by grey fox
Ok then i'll break it down into itty bitty little chunks for you too understand

616 aurora - BANNED - reasons include : Hypnosis and unknown speed ( it could be more then quicksilver for all we know ?)

AOA aurora - NOT BANNED- reasons include - Under speed caps and no hypnosis .

AOA power's are weaker then 616 , so posting feats that 616 have done are stupid and pushing your luck.

your smarter than this, 616 aurora doesn't have much of an impact her. the reason i posted pics was just to say that the aurora i chose will do something similar to this in the fight. the pics were there to show people something along the lines of what i meant she was doing.

Originally posted by leonidas
okay, i'm saying it. 😛

maybe you do, that's not the point. but it doesn't matter WHAT you know. this is SF's battle, not yours. the point of these things is to let the competitor fight so it comes down to whether HE knows his stuff. and since he's the one fighting if he DOES, good for him, if he doesn't, well . . . he's screwed.

i've seen similar things in other fights. now if SF pulls some bullshit that you know about, THEN by all means pipe up and say something. imo you just need to be careful how much info you give out -- as does everyone.

Well if others say so that's fine, I won't.

He is battling not me, once again I'm here to correct errors to what has said. SF is on his own, I have not picked apart individual points of SS arguement, just corrected small errors.

I'm not giving any info out, he is making up his battle plan on his own. All I'm doing is saying the limits of the characters and what they actually can do.

i don't know what everyone is so mad at mungi about, i mean he is right. if i said that aurora could do soemthing that she could definitley not do, and mungi corrected me, then no one would have a problem, so what's the difference here? he isn't helping me at all, just correcting information on aurora.

Originally posted by stormfront13
i'll say the same thing here. using 616 speed feats when they both have around the same speed is fine. if 616 can spin around and create a whirlwind then why can't AOA do something similar. it may have sounded like i was asying they would do the excat same thing, but i didn't mean it like that, i meant that AOA could do something similar. i'm just posting the pictures of 616 to show that aoa could do something similar to that, like creating a whirlwind, or blinding someone, or speedblitzing someone.

Since we don't know what kind of speeds 616 used on those pics, we don't know if AOA could do the same.

My God... 🤨

my sentiments exactly.....

Holy hell, thats one awesome sig, Blair Wind.

thanks hotsauce is the man...

mach 10 would VERY easily be able to form a sand tunnel like that one if mach 10 is the cap and Ultimate Aurora can go that fast.

Originally posted by stormfront13
your smarter than this, 616 aurora doesn't have much of an impact her. the reason i posted pics was just to say that the aurora i chose will do something similar to this in the fight. the pics were there to show people something along the lines of what i meant she was doing.

Storm what your trying to argue is that one character can perform a feat because another character with SIMILAR powers has done so. Chances are that Yes AoA aurora could do the whole whirlwind trick but untill we know FOR SURE you cant use that as an argument

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Since we don't know what kind of speeds 616 used on those pics, we don't know if AOA could do the same.

we know it was under mach 10, because that was around the speed that seh had at the time. AOA aurora was still capable of going around at least mach 8 so there should be no reason she coulodn't do something similar.

Originally posted by phillipan
Storm what your trying to argue is that one character can perform a feat because another character with SIMILAR powers has done so. Chances are that Yes AoA aurora could do the whole whirlwind trick but untill we know FOR SURE you cant use that as an argument

nothing about a tourney is FOR SURE. every stragety is based on speculation. it is speculation spider will be able to kick someone in the face, it is speculation wether aurora will be able to beat warpath. is isn't fure sure that warpath is class 90, it's only speculation, yet no one is arguoing that he isn't. you get it? so by your way of thinking, spider doesn't know for sure weather or not warpath would be able to kick through a force-field, so he can't use it as an arguement, in which case he has no stragety now.