Fourth Celestial host vs DC Earth

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Batman beat superman

nuff said

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Batman proved he could handle himself against Superman if literally everything went his way and had prep and Superman used no powers at all, and even then for a SHORT time only.

Next time they met in Sacrifice, Superman rushed him before he could even think to move, chokeslammed him and broke nearly every bone his body.

Originally posted by Juntai
And I know Thor didn't defeat them, I wasn't even suggesting it. He did hit one and put a hole in it though and even knocked it back, and even and lets face it, in the grand scheme of things, Thor ranks little higher than Captain America. Having shown the scans proves little besides visual aid to what I had already stated. [Thanks dude!]

I mean, even IF Spectre didn't just go do it himself.
Which is a possible scenario, given his feats.

A 5th Dimension Imp, Thunderbolt for example. Could be used to put a field around the entire Earth. Protecting it while Spectre handles his business. Or even engage them in fights.
If Thor can put a hole in one, an Imp can turn them into brooms, mops and washrags and clean up Brooklyn and Queensbridge.

I mean, there's just too many powerful chacters that walk DC's Earth that are huge variables in this conflict...

I mean, hell... Kyle is ION again.
And going by the latest Mr Miracle books, Darkseid walks the Earth now, and knows the Anti-Life Equation, which puts him WAY back up the list of powerhouses..

Too many people with world/universal/multiversal level feats to ignore this.

Though I still maintain Spectre can do it solo, EVEN if he was completely removed from the picture altogether, they still have a great chance at winning.

i agree. there are a lot of variables. spectre could do it himself if he is allowed in this. if not, it would be much more difficult, but sue storm broke one and sent it running from our plane of existence. if she can find the energy signature to drive tham off, others could as well.

i'm not saying it would be easy, but it could be done . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
i agree. there are a lot of variables. spectre could do it himself if he is allowed in this. if not, it would be much more difficult, but sue storm broke one and sent it running from our plane of existence. if she can find the energy signature to drive tham off, others could as well.

i'm not saying it would be easy, but it could be done . . .

And the thread creator specifically put Spectre into the fight. That's why I was saying it was overkill with him there.
If he wasn't there, its a fight.
If he is there, it's not much of one.
Because when Spectre comes to fight, as seen from his appearnaces, it's typically the end of the road.

galactus has already been shown to be able to defeat the entire celestial homeworld in a FF comic.

Originally posted by Mider
galactus has already been shown to be able to defeat the entire celestial homeworld in a FF comic.

no it was an alternate universe but 616 took note of it happening meaning they acknowledged it to my remembrance i think thats when it was said at full power galactus could eat the universe ten times over if he can eat the universe 10 times over then well the celestials are part of the universe so DUH he could eat them too.

Duh was not pointed to you juntie just to those who say that galactus cant beat the celestials

but in the case of earth, galactus wasn't on earth so we couldn't use him.

and yeah, jun, iw DID blast a celestial from our plane. very poor showing for the 'mighty' celestials . . .

with spectre, dc earth certainly survives . . . damn, they survived megaddon. dc earth is a tough nut to crack!

you mean Definatly servives not certanly 😄

if Spectre can make as many doubles of himself as he wants now only could he have an army waiting for the celestials one to protect earth and the other to kick the crap out of the celestials. since he can make doubles of himself that do what he is suppose to do on other but on other planets am i to understand they all share the same power or that they are equally as powerful as the spectre im talking about the doubles of the spectre.

Originally posted by Mider
if Spectre can make as many doubles of himself as he wants now only could he have an army waiting for the celestials one to protect earth and the other to kick the crap out of the celestials. since he can make doubles of himself that do what he is suppose to do on other but on other planets am i to understand they all share the same power or that they are equally as powerful as the spectre im talking about the doubles of the spectre.

Also, their size will make little difference, as seen for example in Day of Vengeance Special, in Hal's run, he was holding galaxies in his palm, and later creation as a whole, though that last part doesn't really have to do with size, imo.

But he's been solar system sized, even from his earliest days in More Fun comics.
For example battling Zor, who then was considered his exact opposite at the time but working for the side of evil instead. Though Zor had a bit more time to learn his powers. Spectre still proves far more powerful in the end.

Iw only broke the armor because her forcefields operated in hypertime or some such bs. Lame, but it showed that strength alone wouldn't do it. Kinda like the angel Jla feat. They only beat them by sending them away using a special frequency. Same difference. And Thor broke the armor using a godblast with his belt of strength wrapped around Mjnollir amplifying the power, and it shattered the hammer. And it didn't even beat the celestial. All it did was break the armor, which repaired instantly. My theory is that strength isn't what broke the armor. Probably since Celestials are SpaceGod scientists types, magic probably messed with their scientific basis. But thats all.
But,with Spectre here, and operating at the optimum, DC Earth wins. But if he fights the way he fought Shazam and Marvel, they could win. Shazam was approaching the universal level, as you said Jun. Celestials ARE universal level.

point is, if IW can generate that specific energy signature (hyperspatial) than otehr energy wielders should be able to as well. and you're right, it WAS bs, but it DID happen . . .

Other wielders should, but other than Gl's, which energy wielders have Cosmic Awareness?? And breaking the armor is nowhere close to defeating them. It repairs instantly, and these are reality warpers on a galactic level, who throw planets in battle!! Planets!! DC hasn't seen that since the PreCrisis days......

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even with out spectre they have the fifth dimension genie the fifth dimension imps are trouble even for the spectre cause they know his weaknesses against hurting innocents, but jakum thunder is shown to be trouble even in the fifth dimension. Also when joker has the power of a fifth dimension imp he was able to do nutso things like kill and bring back people he hated, turn whole planets into cubes and stuff like that he even traped the spectre in an area were if he escaped it would destroy the universe, earth also has nabu who is insanly powerful DC has to many amped up beings they would eventually defeat the celestials even with out spectre it would just take longer perhaps, they could do the spell they did in day of judgment or vengence were Captain marvel was being powered by all DC earth and standing up to spectre but losing in the end.

DC Earth wins, The Spectre who is connected to The Word/The Logos can blink them out of existance. If the Spectre doesn't help then DC Earth still might seeing they was able to stop Maggedon and Imperiex Prime and the Anti-Monitor (barely).

The Spectre alone would easily enslave the Host and even the entire Celestial Race in case of them put their metallic faces against the Right Hand Of God. And all that with a single word or hand movement or something like that. The Spectre is at least Eternity level but not even Eternity would dare to challenge his wrath.

Spectre does not have The Presence backing him here

And yet he's a part of the Presence because of that he send them all to burn in hell with a single word. Plus by the rules he has all his mighty.