Fourth Celestial host vs DC Earth

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Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
And all you have is theories on supposedly what he could do and not the ones that is in his character to do also. Keep the planet alive by spreading his conciousness you say, why not just remake a new sun, kill the sun eater and put the earth back on it's track. Or is that the best he can do? Even Onslaught with just the power of franklin richards and nate could create one. That amount of power would only be equal to two celestials slacking around.

Now, why is that so? i'll tell you why. Cause he is written that way.

Because he chose not to, it's that simple. It's even mentioned in the book. That's not the case in this thread, HE WAS PUT INTO THE FIGHT BY THE THREAD MAKER. His deal against inaction is immediately negated by that, then you have BLOODLUST, my friend.

And mine's not theories, I've been posting stuff he's actually done, and excerpts from his own comics. You've apperently never even read one, so are not at liberty to tell ME what his powerset is.

GODSCRIBE Senior Member

What would a full power Spectre be doing on Earth anyway? What kind of shit is DC on??

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
What would a full power Spectre be doing on Earth anyway? What kind of shit is DC on??
Spectre Prime usually does stay on Earth, while untold billions of aspects of himself go around time and space doing whatever.

Either way, he's here because the thread creator put him here.

GODSCRIBE Senior Member

He never specified if Spectre was there or not. He just said vs. DC Earth. Unless a supposedly god-like being like Spectre dwells amongst mere mortals.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
He never specified if Spectre was there or not. He just said vs. DC Earth. Unless a supposedly god-like being like Spectre dwells amongst mere mortals.

Did you not read the post?

"keep in mind this is DC earth, not DC universe.

Wonder Woman does not have the godwave in this.
Spectre is at normal power.
Superman is pre crisis

Does DC earth have a chance?"

So he put Spectre into the fight.

And like I said, Spectre Prime itself as bonded to a human host, usually does dwell on Earth, and sends untold billions of aspects of himself all across reality and beyond.

GODSCRIBE Senior Member

Actually didn't read the conditions. But can Spectre at normal power even beat Arishem by himself??

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Actually didn't read the conditions. But can Spectre at normal power even beat Arishem by himself??
Yep. Spectre's feats are even greater than the Tribunal.
He's arguably the most powerful character in comics, save Yahweh and those Yahweh protects from him.

GODSCRIBE Senior Member

But he can't beat all the Celestials.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
But he can't beat all the Celestials.
Why not?

Juntai Divine Vengeance

As feats prove, he can do more with one finger than all of them can combined. This is irrefutible. It's even acknowledged by pretty much everyone else in this thread.

If you can somehow, someway, prove differently, by all means, do so.

GODSCRIBE Senior Member

Then why have superman like characters given him trouble then? Ive seen scans of him fighting h2h and mere mortals stalemating him.

What's the deal with that.

And what exactly can he do with one finger? What is the extent of a NORMAL Spectres power. It seems you don't understand what a Celestial is.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Then why have superman like characters given him trouble then? Ive seen scans of him fighting h2h and mere mortals stalemating him.

What's the deal with that.

And what exactly can he do with one finger? What is the extent of a NORMAL Spectres power. It seems you don't understand what a Celestial is.

When Superman flew at Spectre in DOJ, Spectre turned him into salt.
In that same series, Spectre conquered Hell itself with a THOUGHT.
Then turned off the powers of the Gods and the Quintessence, again with a mere thought.

In Year One, one of his first times of Corrigan using Spectre's powers at all! [As Year One was all origin tales], he defeated an elder God with a punch and a flash of light.

In Spectre 17 he recreated the Universe.
In Emperor Joker, he recreated the universe.
In COIE He recreated the universe.
In Zero Hour he poured enough energy into Damage to make him the big bang.. and recreate the Universe.
In Legends of the DCU: Spectre The Devouror of Worlds 4 parter, he found the Earth destroyed, and summoned an army of angels to rebuild it.
In JSA Day of Vengence Tie Ins he defeated a 5th dimension imp by eye beaming it.

In the final issue of Spectre volume 4, he's depicted as being beyond the planes of existance [holding the entire world, and then the multiverse in his hands.] and able to manipulate and change it.

In Final Night, he spread a piece of himself across the entire Earth and kept alive while the sun was destroyed, Gaea was overwhelmed by his power.

GODSCRIBE Senior Member

And all of this at normal power?

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
And all of this at normal power?
Spectre is a manifestation of God into creation bonded to a soul.

Yes.

GODSCRIBE Senior Member

So then there shouldn't be any distinction between him at normal power or at full-power.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
So then there shouldn't be any distinction between him at normal power or at full-power.
I'm not sure what people mean by 'normal power' and 'full power' Spectre.

Most of the time its simply not in his character to intefere with such trivial things as someone attacking Earth, but the thead creator put him into the fite. But given his vast number of feats on a universal scale and beyond, it seems his normal power is at that level.

GODSCRIBE Senior Member

that's what i was wondering. it sounds pretty dumb for a god-like being to be an earth dwelling character. thanks for the clarification.

GODSCRIBE Senior Member

yeah, but if he was truly god's wrath/power then there shouldn't be anything like normal power or full power since God's abilities are endless and infinite.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
that's what i was wondering. it sounds pretty dumb for a god-like being to be an earth dwelling character. thanks for the clarification.
Like I said, A piece of God bonding to a human soul is what the Spectre is, incarnations of the Spectre are often still infatuated with the fleshy world of Earth and wander there. However, that's only SPECTRE-PRIME, he sends aspects of himself through all of time and space, planes and realities, to correct and destroy, create and lead souls to Heaven.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
yeah, but if he was truly god's wrath/power then there shouldn't be anything like normal power or full power since God's abilities are endless and infinite.
Yes, his powers do seem pretty much endless and infinite, however, understanding and using endless and infinite powers are quite a burden for someone with the scope of reality as small as a human. Hal found himself beyond this, Corrigan on the other hand, never really did understand he just let the power itself and his rage do the work.