Superboy Prime Vs. Galactus

Started by Roldz12 pages

Originally posted by Jesse7
Well actually, SBP wasnt retconned or affected by the retcon not directly anyhow, that is why he still existed and thus why IC happened.

I dont have the link, but I assume Nvr does, from his lack of response at the momment he might be retrieving it right now.


right my bad.. i know that..

Originally posted by Jesse7
Well actually, SBP wasnt retconned or affected by the retcon not directly anyhow, that is why he still existed and thus why IC happened.

I dont have the link, but I assume Nvr does, from his lack of response at the momment he might be retrieving it right now.

Sorry, I have almost everyone on ignore that has irked me in the last few days. I didn't know you wanted a link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superboy_Prime

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=8326

Originally posted by Jesse7
Just because its a PC doesnt mean you discredit its multiple spectrums of in-depthness.

It was a strength feat as well as one of the following

A. Extreme speed feat

B. Extreme reality/matter manipulation feat

P.S. I actually think it does say some where the inhabitants noticed not a thing, ill ask NVR when he gets back, hes usually pretty accurate about these things as he has the exact volume/page/book numbers or scans to back it up, that or links.


Really dough man... he was not affected by the retconned couldnt he have easily defeat those flashes from blitzing him and then impresoned him if hes got those kind of feats.. One way to explain that feats is bad writing..

Originally posted by Jesse7
Just because its a PC doesnt mean you discredit its multiple spectrums of in-depthness.

It was a strength feat as well as one of the following

A. Extreme speed feat

B. Extreme reality/matter manipulation feat

P.S. I actually think it does say some where the inhabitants noticed not a thing, ill ask NVR when he gets back, hes usually pretty accurate about these things as he has the exact volume/page/book numbers or scans to back it up, that or links.

Seriously. You think they thought about Superman rubbing his hands and healing time?

Plus, a comet was moving faster than him. He wasn't traveling that fast, but instead he was that strong.

Originally posted by bigbran
Seriously. You think they thought about Superman rubbing his hands and healing time?

Plus, a comet was moving faster than him. He wasn't traveling that fast, but instead he was that strong.

Actually SBPisnt as strong as PC superman, SBP even comments on this when he says "I will grow up to be superman!"

But in actuality, when he does grow up to be superman he will be stronger then the other versions for a few reasons...

1. he has anti-matter in him and he merged with it.
2. He can warp reality as explained by Lex Luthor, but he cannot control it yet, thus why it was dependent on his emotion at the time.

The comet can be explained by a few things, even if SBP was moving at high speeds, and moving an entire galaxy of planets, if he has that strength and speed, then he could also stop.

Or If SBP was keeping the planets together with reality/matter manipulation, then he just stopped and let the comet pass.

It really isn't hard to explain.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sorry, I have almost everyone on ignore that has irked me in the last few days. I didn't know you wanted a link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superboy_Prime

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=8326

Thanks nvr!

Originally posted by Jesse7
Actually SBPisnt as strong as PC superman, SBP even comments on this when he says "I will grow up to be superman!"

But in actuality, when he does grow up to be superman he will be stronger then the other versions for a few reasons...

1. he has anti-matter in him and he merged with it.
2. He can warp reality as explained by Lex Luthor, but he cannot control it yet, thus why it was dependent on his emotion at the time.

The comet can be explained by a few things, even if SBP was moving at high speeds, and moving an entire galaxy of planets, if he has that strength and speed, then he could also stop.

Or If SBP was keeping the planets together with reality/matter manipulation, then he just stopped and let the comet pass.

It really isn't hard to explain.

What ever he was doing, He's somewhere in Tyrant's range of Strength like I originally posted right?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sorry, I have almost everyone on ignore that has irked me in the last few days. I didn't know you wanted a link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superboy_Prime

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=8326


Wikipedia says "Kal-El and Kal-L defeat Superboy-Prime by flying him directly through Krypton's red sun Rao, forcing him to burn up his solar energy stored in his body to protect himself from the intense heat of a star, destroying his armor and sacrificing their powers to even the odds."
Of course you know fans are also give access to this site to edit..
and the other site doesnt say anything about his weaknesses...

Originally posted by Jesse7
Thanks nvr!

if you read it closely it says what issue of wizard they interview about sbp prime. i think it's issue 170 but I can't see it that well. So you can look up that issue of wizard and see exactly what is says in relation to sbp.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Actually SBPisnt as strong as PC superman, SBP even comments on this when he says "I will grow up to be superman!"

But in actuality, when he does grow up to be superman he will be stronger then the other versions for a few reasons...

1. he has anti-matter in him and he merged with it.
2. He can warp reality as explained by Lex Luthor, but he cannot control it yet, thus why it was dependent on his emotion at the time.

The comet can be explained by a few things, even if SBP was moving at high speeds, and moving an entire galaxy of planets, if he has that strength and speed, then he could also stop.

Or If SBP was keeping the planets together with reality/matter manipulation, then he just stopped and let the comet pass.

It really isn't hard to explain.


Ahh when did he merged w/ antimatter energies? never heared that before..

Originally posted by Jesse7
Actually SBPisnt as strong as PC superman, SBP even comments on this when he says "I will grow up to be superman!"

But in actuality, when he does grow up to be superman he will be stronger then the other versions for a few reasons...

1. he has anti-matter in him and he merged with it.
2. He can warp reality as explained by Lex Luthor, but he cannot control it yet, thus why it was dependent on his emotion at the time.

The comet can be explained by a few things, even if SBP was moving at high speeds, and moving an entire galaxy of planets, if he has that strength and speed, then he could also stop.

Or If SBP was keeping the planets together with reality/matter manipulation, then he just stopped and let the comet pass.

It really isn't hard to explain.

He wasn't keeping them in nothing. It's was the writing back then. He wasn't going that fast, he was just being that strong. He didn't do that feat in superspeed.

He did do the one planet thing in superspeed though, in IC.
That's probably why you think he towed those ones like that.
It was PC, therefore it was unexplainable. Unless you want to try and explain how Superman rubbed his hands together, and healed time...

Plus I never said he was as strong as Superman, and how does him saying that equate into Superman being stronger, anyway?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
if you read it closely it says what issue of wizard they interview about sbp prime. i think it's issue 170 but I can't see it that well. So you can look up that issue of wizard and see exactly what is says in relation to sbp.

Ill check that out next time if i dont forget that is.. Thanks for the links by the way.. Still doesnt solve the argument....

Originally posted by bigbran
He wasn't keeping them in nothing. It's was the writing back then. He wasn't going that fast, he was just being that strong. He didn't do that feat in superspeed.

He did do the one planet thing in superspeed though, in IC.
That's probably why you think he towed those ones like that.
It was PC, therefore it was unexplainable. Unless you want to try and explain how Superman rubbed his hands together, and healed time...

Plus I never said he was as strong as Superman, and how does him saying that equate into Superman being stronger, anyway?

O I'm not really arguing, im much more in agreeance, the only thing im debating is that he moved those planets at super speed, or some sort of very high level reality/matter manipulation to keep them together while he moved them slowly.

To just say its PC and discredit any chance he has at a speed showing or matter/reality manipulation is a bit one sided.

When I am shown scans of other characters I do not dismiss their feats as just one dimensional purely because of when and who it was written by.

P.S. SBP does have extremely high level reality manipulation as Alex explained on panel, SBP just cant fully control it yet, so perhaps he used this with the planets to keep them from being destroyed as he moved them from one side of the universe to the other side.

P.S.S. Actually it must have been extremely high level super speed, because he moved a galaxy worth of planets from one side of the universe to the other, if he wasn't moving at trillions of times the speed of light then it would have taken him possibly millions of years to get from one side of the universe to the other.

Originally posted by Jesse7
O I'm not really arguing, im much more in agreeance, the only thing im debating is that he moved those planets at super speed, or some sort of very high level reality/matter manipulation to keep them together while he moved them slowly.

To just say its PC and discredit any chance he has at a speed showing or matter/reality manipulation is a bit one sided.

When I am shown scans of other characters I do not dismiss their feats as just one dimensional purely because of when and who it was written by.

P.S. SBP does have extremely high level reality manipulation as Alex explained on panel, SBP just cant fully control it yet, so perhaps he used this with the planets to keep them from being destroyed as he moved them from one side of the universe to the other side.

P.S.S. Actually it must have been extremely high level super speed, because he moved a galaxy worth of planets from one side of the universe to the other, if he wasn't moving at trillions of times the speed of light then it would have taken him possibly millions of years to get from one side of the universe to the other.

Ok the last part made sense.
But PC writers didn't think about any of this real world logic. They just focused on making a great story. Now-a-days, you would have to explain this, back then, they could really care less.
You can't really use that as a speed feat.
If you want to use a speed feat, use this instead.

The other one shows, no speed feats on panel, that one however does.

Plus he didn't have speed lines...

And just to let you know, I do like SBP. I just don't think he can take Galactus.

Oh, yeah, don't quote this. If nvr, can't take something, then let him be like that. I never called him a name, or told him to f off.

Originally posted by Jesse7
O I'm not really arguing, im much more in agreeance, the only thing im debating is that he moved those planets at super speed, or some sort of very high level reality/matter manipulation to keep them together while he moved them slowly.

To just say its PC and discredit any chance he has at a speed showing or matter/reality manipulation is a bit one sided.

When I am shown scans of other characters I do not dismiss their feats as just one dimensional purely because of when and who it was written by.

P.S. SBP does have extremely high level reality manipulation as Alex explained on panel, SBP just cant fully control it yet, so perhaps he used this with the planets to keep them from being destroyed as he moved them from one side of the universe to the other side.

P.S.S. Actually it must have been extremely high level super speed, because he moved a galaxy worth of planets from one side of the universe to the other, if he wasn't moving at trillions of times the speed of light then it would have taken him possibly millions of years to get from one side of the universe to the other.


Is this on the IC mini you are talkin about, im going to read it again cause i missed that infor... And when did he merged with Anti-matter energy?

Originally posted by Roldz
Is this on the IC mini you are talkin about, im going to read it again cause i missed that infor... And when did he merged with Anti-matter energy?

THe IC mini does indeed explain when Alex injected/infused SBP with anti-matter.

Thanks..

Originally posted by Jesse7
Actually he moved entire solar systems around faster then the speed of light, much faster, because he took it from one side of the universe to the other instantly; no time passed, the atmosphere was unaffected, and the beings and gods of those planets noticed nothing.

even better.

[img=http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8061/sbpmovinplanetsmx1.th.jpg]

The above ones are a lot better feats dough.. Him moving a whole bunch of planets or the ones going fast speed while carrying a planet...

I might just start a SBP respect thread