Originally posted by Horrificus
um... didn't Doctor Doom just do this somehow? (moving a 2nd Earth to the other side of the Sun)
I said someone under Tyrant doing so with their bare hands. Bascially all I said was Sbp was somewhere in Tyrants lvl of strength and speed and durability and people want to have cows and chickens over it.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Actually the reason SBP was weaker when he came back from the speed force with the suit, is because his cells and reserves were completely emptied.
Avalon has provided scans showing that SBP is immune to red sunlight radiation; it was not the red sun radiation that weakened SBP, but the lack of yellow sunlight that did so.
Originally posted by Roldz
No.. Where does it say that.. I could speculate also, like say.. after inventing the armor he could have stayed and let it power him to full power and while at full powered was still using the armor and its equal to sundipping since it direct feed making him 200x more powerfull than before.. anyone can play that game unless its stated in comic panel then its canon the rest are just speculation by fans..Yet he was impresoned on a red sunlight when the flashes blitz and took im somewhere... How is that not being affected by red sunlight..
Actually, I think it did say on panel that he was in a place with no sunlight, secondly it is supported numerous times that he was weakened and his cells were drained. IE not doing anything on the level he was doing before he went into the speed force, and secondly the momment he loses his suit he loses his poweres soon after that meaning he had little to no reserves, because even without sunlight he can operate as long as he has reserves.
It is not the red sun that is keeping him in check, its the lack of yellow sunlight that is keeping him powerless, that and 50 green lanterns keeping him away from sunlight.
When they crashed through the red sun, the other supermen were instantly depowered, but superboy still had his powers for a while till he expended what ever small reserves he had gained from the suit, IE using heat vision.
Its not speculation.
Actually the reason SBP was weaker when he came back from the speed force with the suit, is because his cells and reserves were completely emptied from being in the speed force without yellow sunlight for 3-5 years.
Actually the reason SBP was weaker when he came back from the speed force with the suit, is because his cells and reserves were completely emptied from being in the speed force without yellow sunlight for 3-5 years.The suit was feeding him yellow sunlight, but he was also constantly using that energy to fight and such, he was never able to store a large ammount much less even a decent ammount; he had no time to this as he was constantly expending what ever % he was being fed.
^This was shown when he crashed through the red sun and his suit was destroyed, for a brief while afterward he still had his powers (heat vision) and was using them, till they ran out; the other supermen were instantly de-powered.
Avalon has provided scans showing that SBP is immune to red sunlight radiation; it was not the red sun radiation that weakened SBP, but the lack of yellow sunlight that did so.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Actually, I think it did say on panel that he was in a place with no sunlight, secondly it is supported numerous times that he was weakened and his cells were drained. IE not doing anything on the level he was doing before he went into the speed force, and secondly the momment he loses his suit he loses his poweres soon after that meaning he had little to no reserves, because even without sunlight he can operate as long as he has reserves.It is not the red sun that is keeping him in check, its the lack of yellow sunlight that is keeping him powerless, that and 50 green lanterns keeping him away from sunlight.
When they crashed through the red sun, the other supermen were instantly depowered, but superboy still had his powers for a while till he expended what ever small reserves he had gained from the suit, IE using heat vision.
Its not speculation.
Man your info is all wrong.. He was not in the speedforce impresoned, the Flashes took him somewhere else... here read what it says in the scans... http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=8b81re2.jpg&.src=ph
thats all man..
Originally posted by Roldz
the armor absorbs ambient energy and transformed it into solar energy and directly feeds him and sense is taken from an advance tech why shouldnt it powered him up more.. He would be like having SS, Blue Supes, Quazar or Gls absortions power.. Its never been stated how long he was under red sunlight... Actually most of your info.. are wrong.. And the Supermen were depowered not only by sunlight but by the Kryptonite as well...
The k-nite was destroyed by SBP when he flew effortlessly through it.
Actually most of my info is right, you are mistaken though, it does say on panel time was different where he was taken and that he was their for years.
Now you are speculation because it is no where supported in IC that the suit feed him energy on a large scale, you yourself said "its alien tech why shouldnt it power him up more?", which is exactly what speculation is.
On panel showings show that he was no where near the level of power he was on before he spent years in the speed force.
Again its supported that it was the lack of yellow sunlight from the suit and not red sunlight because when he crashed through the red sun and lost his suit, he still had his powers till he used the last of his reserves from what ever small ammount the suit had charged, then once they were expended he was powerless; Well the other supermen were instantly depowered from the red sun.
Originally posted by Roldz
Man your info is all wrong.. He was not in the speedforce impresoned, the Flashes took him somewhere else... here read what it says in the scans... http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=8b81re2.jpg&.src=ph
thats all man..
I'm not wrong, that supports everything ive been saying, he was trapped some where under a red sun with no yellow sunlight for years, as I have been saying, thus his cells were depleted over time.
On panel showings support what I am saying, not what you are saying Roldz.
Originally posted by hitemup
are u kidding, sbp has godlike abilities. he can surpass lightspeed and move entire planets.
Actually he moved entire solar systems around faster then the speed of light, much faster, because he took it from one side of the universe to the other instantly; no time passed, the atmosphere was unaffected, and the beings and gods of those planets noticed nothing.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Actually he moved entire solar systems, or was it galaxies? Around faster then the speed of light, much faster, because he took it from one side of the universe to the other instantly; no time passed, the atmosphere was unaffected, and the beings and gods of those planets noticed nothing.
I dont know if it was anything beyond planets, but he did do it so fast that not even the abstracts and cosmic beings noticed.
Originally posted by Jesse7
The k-nite was destroyed by SBP when he flew effortlessly through it.Actually most of my info is right, you are mistaken though, it does say on panel time was different where he was taken and that he was their for years.
Now you are speculation because it is no where supported in IC that the suit feed him energy on a large scale, you yourself said "its alien tech why shouldnt it power him up more?", which is exactly what speculation is.
On panel showings show that he was no where near the level of power he was on before he spent years in the speed force.
Again its supported that it was the lack of yellow sunlight from the suit and not red sunlight because when he crashed through the red sun and lost his suit, he still had his powers till he used the last of his reserves from what ever small ammount the suit had charged, then once they were expended he was powerless; Well the other supermen were instantly depowered from the red sun.
1st of all both Superman blitz him through the K asteroid he didnt flew through it..
the armor is not alien tech, him and Luthor are quite familiar with it, its same tech.. with the tower..
The Supermen lost their powers right away cause of the 2 weakness K-nite that they went over and the red sunlight while SBP only had the red-sunlight weakness..
Him being weaker after havin the armor is just pure speculation.. there is nothing written on it on paper.. As far as im concerned he could as well have stayed for years waiting to bring his powers back before coming back to challenge the heroes.. since the armor directly feeds him sunlight aka sundipping.. you know how Superman quickly becomes more powerfull with just a few seconds from it.. Unless you've got scan saying his less powerfull w/ antimonitor armor then id beleived.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Actually he moved entire solar systems around faster then the speed of light, much faster, because he took it from one side of the universe to the other instantly; no time passed, the atmosphere was unaffected, and the beings and gods of those planets noticed nothing.
Originally posted by Roldz
1st of all both Superman blitz him through the K asteroid he didnt flew through it..
the armor is not alien tech, him and Luthor are quite familiar with it, its same tech.. with the tower..
The Supermen lost their powers right away cause of the 2 weakness K-nite that they went over and the red sunlight while SBP only had the red-sunlight weakness..
Him being weaker after havin the armor is just pure speculation.. there is nothing written on it on paper.. As far as im concerned he could as well have stayed for years waiting to bring his powers back before coming back to challenge the heroes.. since the armor directly feeds him sunlight aka sundipping.. you know how Superman quickly becomes more powerfull with just a few seconds from it.. Unless you've got scan saying his less powerfull w/ antimonitor armor then id beleived.
Your theory is more speculative then mine is, your saying the suit is equivilant to sun dipping, when going by on panel showings thats not the case.
And you have no evidence that SBP is weak to red sun radiation, while I do have on panel evidence that he is immune to red sunlight radiation.
I'm not the one who said the suit is alien tech, you did as I was quoting you if you did not notice.
And finally, him being weaker with the armor is because his cells were drained from years without yellow sunlight, and what ever small ammount of energy the suit was feeding him was quickly being expended by his constant fighting.
On panel showings support what I say in that he was MUCH MUCH weaker when he came back from years of no yellow sunlight, they do not support that he was equally as strong or stronger then he was before.
