Originally posted by WeskerI think we should stop accepting immigrants from islamic countries because it is not just a peaceful religion like they say. This is a post off of one of their boards. http://www.lebanese-forces.org/vbullet/showthread.php?t=16770
He was talking about Muslims.
So by definition, Islam is fundamentally and ideologically incompatible with democracy. This should not be taken offensively though, I mean I for one dont believe in traditional democracy, or to be more specific "the rule of the people". I'm just emphasizing that Islam and democracy do not coalesce, this is the reality.
If they don't want to live in our society and follow our laws we should send them back to muslim countries and as many of their converts as want to go with them.
Originally posted by debbiejoI think change is against their religion. A muslim said Islam is incompatible with democracy because democracy is the rule of man. Islam is the rule of God. Democracy ascribes to the varying and changing opinion of people, as the basis of rule. So democracy is really about change. Islam is fixed eternally and univerally for all mankind, it transcends time and culture, it does not change.
The US doesn't treat Muslims bad in [B]this country at all........Also, the Muslims need to learn to be fair and more democratic........let the people have more of a voice........Some free thinking and not regimes. [/B]
So by definition, Islam is fundamentally and ideologically incompatible with democracy. This should not be taken offensively though, I mean I for one dont believe in traditional democracy, or to be more specific "the rule of the people". I'm just emphasizing that Islam and democracy do not coalesce, this is the reality. http://www.lebanese-forces.org/vbullet/showthread.php?t=16770 But maybe he was a shia.
actually, the europeans treat them a lot more terribley in their country.😂 😂 IS this what how the media in US portray it?
ghettoization and open antaganism isn't bad?what antagonism?
think we should stop accepting immigrants from islamic countries because it is not just a peaceful religion like they say.no way, we need to help those in need regardless of their religion
There is massive job and housing discrimination against muslims leading to poverty and social isolation as well as violence against turkish muslims, esecially in parts of the UK that are traditional bastions for the national front, and also Germany and France.do you think they single muslims out against other immigrants? point is that, at least for Norway, muslims distance themselves from the Norwegians and other immigrants themselves by somehow manage to group themselves into communities were others aint welcome, its their choosing to do so and many of them dont integrate well to the society either not letting the females learn Norwegian.
Well Pakistani and Turkish immigrants have been targets for decadescheap labor? its not like we import them, here in Norway we have tariffs and so do they in Germany as well. A jobs pays this much regardles of who you are and what nationality one once were.
any one with a darker tone of skin is a target for the neo nazis racist movements that we have in Europe, but these neo nazi skinheaded racist are small groups though
Originally posted by fintiI think BBC is pro islam and I don't think muslims are discriminated against in europe at all. They didn't show the cartoons and neither did Cnn or most of the papers here in the USA. CNN has muslim investors and that probably had something to do with it but mainly I don't think they wanted to disrespect islam and make muslims mad. It seems like jillianposten could at least published some better cartoons aand some muslims thought a couple of them were humourous most just dumb. I read a post on one of their boards that said it was a poor attempt at humour and the only one that could be considered offensive was where he had a bomb shaped turban.
😂 😂 IS this what how the media in US portray it?what antagonism?
no way, we need to help those in need regardless of their religion
Originally posted by markie
I might have eaten a danish pastry once or twice but I don't think it came from denmark so I probably haven't either. I just ask if you knew if musslim countries were still boycoting denmark I guess they are but I don't know.
i wasn't pickin on ur question,just givin my views.as far as other countries r concerned ,they did hav the boycott when i last heard of it.dunno fr sure tho.
denmark just reminds me of a game v used to play in class 6,when v had nothin 2 do n were all sittin in the class,bored n my friend made me play a game that ended with the words "denmark doesn't hav elephants" n thats all i knew about denmark(i wasn't even sure where it exactly was,tho.just knew the name n that it was a europian country).(sigh)never knew this wud come out of it years later.
I'm an advocater of freedom of speech, boohoo, they insulted your God, get inline, they dip crucifix'es in urine and the goverment lets that slide as "art", Muslims don't realize just how bad the American-left is.. (Or in England's case, ehm.. England lol..)
Though if the Muslims retaliate by boming someone, somewhere, I won't lose sleep over it, may even crack a smile. (Assuming it's someone I'd want to get bombed, like someone who would make such an offenssive cartoon to begin with..)
It's hypocritical and ******* the way our multi-national goverments pick and choose what is and is not acceptable.
I can't watch DBZ uncut because Mr. Popo has big lips and offends black people.
I can't watch Loony Toons cause Speedy Gonzaullus stereotypes Mexicans. (Oh sure, you don't mind kicking them out of your country or using them as slave labour, but we can't depict Mexicans on a cartoon being overly optimistic psychos..)
I couldn't even watch that show about the preacher who talked to Jesus because Christians got thier underoos in a gnostic over it so much. Meanwhile that atleast was more REAL and actually had depth. I swear, the world, especialy Americans, get stupider every day..
maham its not like people follow freedom of speech HERE in pakistan{n im sure u know what im talking about}. the entire muslim world{most of it anyway} along with islam as a relgion does not ALLOW freedom of speech, most people would faint if they knew what kind of thing go on here and how much relegious/political opression/prjudice is present in the muslim world{more so than anywhere else} every sermon in mosques curses western leader, way of life, beliefs, systems in the rudest possible ways. they make cartoons of them. burn the puppets of their leaders without even knowing what theyr doing and make hell for any female be it of their family or any1 elses. and 99% of people do this without even KNOWING what all the fuss is about, theyr weak minded/brainwashed fools who go completely insane at these types of thing. i dont understand how any1 reasonable can take a stand against the position of the newspaper. i admit that it was done in an attempt to mock the prophet and the beliefs of people in the islamic world{in partial ignorance}. but GUESS WHAT! both the belief of islam and the actions of the people DESERVE MOCKERY{and much much more} which is why im not complaining against them simply because the UMMAH and islam is not worthy of bein sympathetic towards. just like you wont care if an attemp was made by any normal man to mock the cast system of india without having personal reason to{even though it WILL be an attempt at mockery which isnt GREAT} because the cast system is EVIL, UNJUST AND WRONG!