wolverine vs hawkman

Originally posted by King_Mungi
JLA Crisis ark, same as when he "lost" to Batman.

oh crisis of conscince ok yeah I have that one and nothing make me think he was all that big in that one. and it's the one that I have been talking about since the first page. just holding aqua man isn't enough for all we know aqua man could have just broken free right after that since he obviously fee later on. If that particular arc is all the evidence you have then I still have to say wolverine. Since that is the same one where batman knocked him on his @$$.

Originally posted by jasofisc
oh crisis of conscince ok yeah I have that one and nothing make me think he was all that big in that one. and it's the one that I have been talking about since the first page. just holding aqua man isn't enough for all we know aqua man could have just broken free right after that since he obviously fee later on. If that particular arc is all the evidence you have then I still have to say wolverine. Since that is the same one where batman knocked him on his @$$.

I'm just saying physically he held Aquaman even for the briefest of moments is a feat in half. Then check out his other stuff as Hawkman rountinely battles demons, monsters and alien gods. I'm not joking. As stated, "protecting its citizens from bizarre meances both earth-based and intergalactic". He's more than just a typical street level character.

it's not that I don't accept any evidence I just crisis of conscince is a bad example for hawkman (he only had one real fight and that was with batman) and outdated examples are also bad. it's like using old wonderwoman (post-crisis) feats in my opinion

Originally posted by jasofisc
it's not that I don't accept any evidence I just crisis of conscince is a bad example for hawkman (he only had one real fight and that was with batman) and outdated examples are also bad. it's like using old wonderwoman (post-crisis) feats in my opinion

Someone else was the one who mentioned it, I was the one who directly stated that fight was garbage. Nothing more. As shown in #52 those old events are still canon as it retold his origin.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I'm just saying physically he held Aquaman even for the briefest of moments is a feat in half. Then check out his other stuff as Hawkman rountinely battles demons, monsters and alien gods. I'm not joking. As stated, "protecting its citizens from bizarre meances both earth-based and intergalactic". He's more than just a typical street level character.

good point but captain america battles intergalactic threats all the time too.

Originally posted by jasofisc
good point but captain america battles intergalactic threats all the time too.

Not alone like Hawkman & Hawkgirl rountinely do.

so according to you what level is hawkman like superman or hulk or ironman. from what I see from what your saying he fights gods and demons all by himself, he can best speedsters, he's as strong as aquaman. So is he top tier he sure sounds like it

So why didn't they put in the whole superstrength thing in his bio and the superspeed thing.

Originally posted by jasofisc
so according to you what level is hawkman like superman or hulk or ironman. from what I see from what your saying he fights gods and demons all by himself, he can best speedsters, he's as strong as aquaman. So is he top tier he sure sounds like it

If he has all his weapons ie. Claw of Horus then yes, as that's what he used to beat the Thanagarian "god". No I didn't say he was strong as Aquaman merely held him, yes he can outsmart a speedster that doesn't mean he is just as fast as one. Thats due to experience, which a person who is just peak human Deadly Ernest could tag speedsters

Originally posted by jasofisc
So why didn't they put in the whole superstrength thing in his bio and the superspeed thing.

They did what are you talking about? they never stated the limit as I don't even know what his top speed or strength is.

i'm sorry preak humans touching a speedster is PIS they move faster then they can think and faster then the electracal signals can move to their brain.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
If he has all his weapons ie. Claw of Horus then yes, as that's what he used to beat the Thanagarian "god". No I didn't say he was strong as Aquaman merely held him, yes he can outsmart a speedster that doesn't mean he is just as fast as one. Thats due to experience, which a person who is just peak human Deadly Ernest could tag speedsters

how about without the claw

Originally posted by jasofisc
i'm sorry preak humans touching a speedster is PIS they move faster then they can think and faster then the electracal signals can move to their brain.

Not really, anyone can train themselves to tag anyone. Deadly Ernest was almost a century old and trained his whole life to do things what he could do. Deathstroke has rountinely tagged Kid Flash and Flash.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
They did what are you talking about? they never stated the limit as I don't even know what his top speed or strength is.

most say enhanced human that's not the same as superhuman

Originally posted by jasofisc
how about without the claw

No, unless he pulls someone else that I don't know of. However, if he just has his mace then no he can't match the likes of Superman.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not really, anyone can train themselves to tag anyone. Deadly Ernest was almost a century old and trained his whole life to do things what he could do. Deathstroke has rountinely tagged Kid Flash and Flash.

also PIS how can they tag something that moves as fast as light

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not really, anyone can train themselves to tag anyone. Deadly Ernest was almost a century old and trained his whole life to do things what he could do. Deathstroke has rountinely tagged Kid Flash and Flash.

they would be like a statute to a speedster

Originally posted by jasofisc
most say enhanced human that's not the same as superhuman

Not really most say "All versions of Hawkman have shown enhanced levels of strength." Not enhanced human, just enhanced strength

Originally posted by jasofisc
also PIS how can they tag something that moves as fast as light

What? as stated in the actual Flash comics, Flash does not instantly go lightspeed. He needs to build momentum. That's why people can tag him before he goes unleashed

Originally posted by jasofisc
they would be like a statute to a speedster

No they wouldn't, just look how many people tag Quicksilver. Even Taskmaster tagged him by reading his movements. Not everything is PIS you know.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not really most say "All versions of Hawkman have shown enhanced levels of strength." Not enhanced human, just enhanced strength

your right I just automatically thought human. I can totaly see your point