Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Say it like this:Because that's how it is. Every human on Earth has one commonality then, we're human. We have more differences than we have commonalities, so where this warped view of "We're the same" come from is a bit odd.
-AC
Wrong, we have more then "ONE" commonality, we all have similar needs.
Originally posted by Bardock42But there are variations in us which are usually referred to as "race".
I get you problem is race isn't used correctly, when people say statements like "He's acting white or He's acting black" then it get's really stupid.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Wrong, we have more then "ONE" commonality, we all have similar needs.I get you problem is race isn't used correctly, when people say statements like "He's acting white or He's acting black" then it get's really stupid.
I use race in the same way people use ethnicity. I use it in no harmful way, and it's as applicable. So to say it doesn't exist just because THE WORD was attached under negative circumstances, doesn't mean it can't be used neutrally and be completely applicable.
It can be.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I use race in the same way people use ethnicity. I use it in no harmful way, and it's as applicable. So to say it doesn't exist just because THE WORD was attached under negative circumstances, doesn't mean it can't be used neutrally and be completely applicable.It can be.
-AC
Sorry, but the term race has no real charateristic, tell me what is the characteristic of someone who is black?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Reminds me of that South Park episode where Stan's dad is an alcoholic and says to a girl with elephantisis "We're the same...you and I."-AC
This whole argument reminds me of a Bob Dylan song. Namely "I Shall Be Free No.10 "
I'm just average, common too
I'm just like him, the same as you
I'm everybody's brother and son
I ain't different from anyone
It ain't no use a-talking to me
It's just the same as talking to you.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Sorry, but the term race has no real charateristic, tell me what is the characteristic of someone who is black?
They have dark skin? (I'm kidding, I noticed you have a problem with jokes.)
Race, when we're not being anal, is accepted by many people of many races/ethnicities (for you) to be ok to use. I know what I mean by it, everyone else knows what I mean by it.
None of my friends that are "black", chinese, indian, vietnamese, west indian or otherwise have had any problem with it.
Why do you? Because "technically" it isn't "right"? Did you notice that getting into arguments over the term "race" being technically/anally right or wrong causes more problems than letting someone use the term when they mean no harm, and have caused no offense to anyone of any race?
Fair enough, race may not be the absolute correct definitive clear term. It's not "wrong" in any moral sense, and it's acceptable by many people's standards.
The bottom line is: We're not all the same outside of species. We're not, we are all different people. Fact.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
They have dark skin? (I'm kidding, I noticed you have a problem with jokes.)
I can't tell if your joking online.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
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Race, when we're not being anal, is accepted by many people of many races/ethnicities (for you) to be ok to use. I know what I mean by it, everyone else knows what I mean by it.None of my friends that are "black", chinese, indian, vietnamese, west indian or otherwise have had any problem with it.
Why do you? Because "technically" it isn't "right"? Did you notice that getting into arguments over the term "race" being technically/anally right or wrong causes more problems than letting someone use the term when they mean no harm, and have caused no offense to anyone of any race?
Fair enough, race may not be the absolute correct definitive clear term. It's not "wrong" in any moral sense, and it's acceptable by many people's standards.
-AC
Here's my point, race is a stupid context it has no bases or fact, how can chinese be a race?
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I can't tell if your joking online.Here's my point, race is a stupid context it has no bases or fact, how can chinese be a race?
Really? I can.
It's not "Chinese". "Chinese" is a nationality. There is a correct term for it but I am not sure. It's not Asian I think, but that comes closer. Also, races are Black (Negro), Caucasian, Slav.....
Originally posted by Bardock42
Really? I can.It's not "Chinese". "Chinese" is a nationality. There is a correct term for it but I am not sure. It's not Asian I think, but that comes closer. Also, races are Black (Negro), Caucasian, Slav.....
Asians is a race, you know this includes people from west asian countries.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I can't tell if your joking online.Here's my point, race is a stupid context it has no bases or fact, how can chinese be a race?
Here's my point (also answering your question): If some who is Asian (there you go) and from China, call themselves "Chinese", would you walk up to them and tell them to stop saying it, because it's degrading to Asians?
It's one of those things that, despite being technically/anally wrong, it's not causing cancer is it? We all know what is meant, 9 times out of 10, by someone saying "race". So...what is the point of going into it when even the different ethnicities being referred to, aren't bothered by it?
"Because it's wrong" I guess. Fine, but if I ask someone if they are Chinese, and they are an Asian and from China, what do you think the odds are that they'll say "Hey now. Chinese isn't a race, infact...you should say 'ethnicity'. I am Asian, not Chinese. So please don't refer to me as such." when compared to the chances that they'll say "Yeah, I am."?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Here's my point (also answering your question): If some who is Asian (there you go) and from China, call themselves "Chinese", would you walk up to them and tell them to stop saying it, because it's degrading to Asians?
He can call himself whatever he wants, I just think race is stupid.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri"Because it's wrong" I guess. Fine, but if I ask someone if they are Chinese, and they are an Asian and from China, what do you think the odds are that they'll say "Hey now. Chinese isn't a race, infact...you should say 'ethnicity'. I am Asian, not Chinese. So please don't refer to me as such." when compared to the chances that they'll say "Yeah, I am."?
-AC
Chinese is a nationality, and they'll agree because it's a social construct.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
What's the characteristic of a "RACE", like the "black race" for instance?
That the person is black?
We can go on if you want:
What does the haircolour of a person tell you?
What does the birth date of a person tell you?
What does the eye colour of a person tell you?
What does the birthplace of a person tell you
Heck, what doe the NAME of a person tell you?