Originally posted by Mindship
Unless I missed it, seems a small, minor detail ought to be mentioned, something that would've had Hitler frothing at the mouth with visions of world conquest dancing in his head...Hitler + Atomic Bomb = ?
It was discovered after the war that Germany had pretty much abandoned nuclear weapons research. This is probably because by 1943 Germany's defeat was imminant and efforts were being put into other "miricle" weapons. The V weapons (missles) long range bombers capable of bombing New York, etc.
Had the war gone more favorably for Germany it is almost certain they would have developed nukes. The question is, could they have beaten the US to the punch?
Fortunately, we will never know.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It was mentioned."Had he not done this Germany likely would have decimated what was left of the RAF forcing Britain to sue for peace."
Non sequitur.
Oh really? The bulk of British military might in the late 30s early 40s was naval and in protecting supplies coming from America and controlling the Mediterranian it did make a difference but Britain did not have land forces to compare to Germany's and it's air force was smaller. In the early stages of the air war Germany was intent on destroying British air power, something it COULD have done if they stuck to the original plan. Britian may indeed not have sued for peace in such event but it would have been foolish. With the RAF crippled Germany could have bombed them with impunity, much as the opposite happened in the late stages of the war.
a peace with England might have resulted in Germany building Ships to invade England, I don't think it would have been that wayit also means that Britain would get the time to build a defense to meet an invasion, not that those isles didnt have the experience of the past being invaded from the sea, the time the nazis got is the time the brit got so..................and the brits didnt have to have fought off the ever destructive encounter of the different resistance around European occupied countries.........
It was discovered after the war that Germany had pretty much abandoned nuclear weapons researchBecause they was sabotaged all the time, they had the right idea but to get the ingredient to do so was a target the resistance groups f*ucked up all the time
In the early stages of the air war Germany was intent on destroying British air power, something it COULD have done if they stuck to the original plan. Britian may indeed not have sued for peace in such event but it would have been foolish. With the RAF crippled Germany could have bombed them with impunity, much as the opposite happened in the late stages of the war.come back to the word if...............................IF, just as IF the norwegien defences hadnt come down to a stand down on the eve of april 8 1940(due to political desicions) we Norway) might have prevented or at least delayed the invasion of Norway further than the two months it took(the longest resistance of the occupied countries, due to the fact that Norway was a nuteral and didnt have a regular army god nows why*socialist bastards that ran our country ways then*...) of em all
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
It was discovered after the war that Germany had pretty much abandoned nuclear weapons research. This is probably because by 1943 Germany's defeat was imminant and efforts were being put into other "miricle" weapons. The V weapons (missles) long range bombers capable of bombing New York, etc.Had the war gone more favorably for Germany it is almost certain they would have developed nukes. The question is, could they have beaten the US to the punch?
Fortunately, we will never know.
Not only that, most of Germany's best and brightest scientists were Jews who fled to the US. Including Einstein.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Oh really? The bulk of British military might in the late 30s early 40s was naval and in protecting supplies coming from America and controlling the Mediterranian it did make a difference but Britain did not have land forces to compare to Germany's and it's air force was smaller. In the early stages of the air war Germany was intent on destroying British air power, something it COULD have done if they stuck to the original plan. Britian may indeed not have sued for peace in such event but it would have been foolish. With the RAF crippled Germany could have bombed them with impunity, much as the opposite happened in the late stages of the war.
Yes, really.
Everything you just mentioned was irrelevant. Germany could not cross thr Channel, and they could never have done enough damage with medium bombers.
So what happened there with air power made no difference, even if your premise is true, which is a subject for debate.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Yes, really.Everything you just mentioned was irrelevant. Germany could not cross thr Channel, and they could never have done enough damage with medium bombers.
So what happened there with air power made no difference, even if your premise is true, which is a subject for debate.
I'll agree with you about the crossing the channel part but they most certainly could have done massive damage if they had kept at RAF air bases and crippled Britains air power.
Just look at what British and American air power did to Germany 1943-45. Don't say they couldn't have destroyed much of the UK had the RAF been knocked out in 1940.
And it's ALL subject for debate. Fortunately we will never know for sure.