Should cigarette's be made illegal?

Originally posted by Makedde
I am of the opinion that ciggarettes should be banned. When a smoker gets lung cancer, who pays for his/her chemotherapy? The taxpayer. Yes, we pay for other chemotherapy, but lung cancer can be prevented. Why should I have to pay for someone to have chemo when they could have prevented the situation?

There is nothing I hate more than walking down the street and seeing ciggie butts all over the ground, no one puts them in a bin.

I can't go to the pub because even in the non smoking areas, smoke drifts over from the smoking areas and you go home smelling like an ashtray.

Some people are sensitive to smoke. Should they have to lock themselves inside and not venture out for fear of having an asthma attack? Of course not.

Then there is the issue of passive smoking. All smokers, when you think about it, are killers. Their second hand smoke contributes to the deaths of thousand of people every year by passive smoking. Why should smokers is allowed to endager their lives, and the lives of non smokers? Smokers don't have a right to place my life in jepardy, which is what they are doing. Second hand smoke kills. I don't want to find out I have lung cancer from passive smoking. What do I do? Who can I sue?

These people who smoke should pay for their own chemo if they happen to get cancer, it's only fair. They should also be last priority on the transplant list. With organ donations as low as they are, we don't need to be giving healthy organs to a smoker who will only start smoking again once they leave hospital.

The Government will never make smoking illegal, they collect to much revenue. All they do is raise the prices each year and hope that will make people think twice about buying their smokes.

Smoking is a form of suicide. Every ciggarette is killing you. Why send yourself to an early grave? Why endanger the lives of non smokers? You don't have that right.

My right to remain healthy far outweighs your right to pollute your body, but it appears that smokers have more rights than I.

I smoke, I've done so for over 10 years. But I'm not going to argue the case with you because nothing you've said here is wrong. I'm a hypocrite in the sense that I agree with every word you've said and yet I'm smoking now, while typing this.

I apologise for it, but I'm not going to stop. I just have no valid excuses to back myself up. That's the way it is and if any smokers decide to come in here and argue against Makedde, that's up to them.

The restaurants one really bothers me.
We were done our meal and as our waiter was tallying up the total he was smoking near the register 😘 yuck

Originally posted by Makedde
I am of the opinion that ciggarettes should be banned. When a smoker gets lung cancer, who pays for his/her chemotherapy? The taxpayer. Yes, we pay for other chemotherapy, but lung cancer can be prevented. Why should I have to pay for someone to have chemo when they could have prevented the situation?

There is nothing I hate more than walking down the street and seeing ciggie butts all over the ground, no one puts them in a bin.

I can't go to the pub because even in the non smoking areas, smoke drifts over from the smoking areas and you go home smelling like an ashtray.

Some people are sensitive to smoke. Should they have to lock themselves inside and not venture out for fear of having an asthma attack? Of course not.

Then there is the issue of passive smoking. All smokers, when you think about it, are killers. Their second hand smoke contributes to the deaths of thousand of people every year by passive smoking. Why should smokers is allowed to endager their lives, and the lives of non smokers? Smokers don't have a right to place my life in jepardy, which is what they are doing. Second hand smoke kills. I don't want to find out I have lung cancer from passive smoking. What do I do? Who can I sue?

These people who smoke should pay for their own chemo if they happen to get cancer, it's only fair. They should also be last priority on the transplant list. With organ donations as low as they are, we don't need to be giving healthy organs to a smoker who will only start smoking again once they leave hospital.

The Government will never make smoking illegal, they collect to much revenue. All they do is raise the prices each year and hope that will make people think twice about buying their smokes.

Smoking is a form of suicide. Every ciggarette is killing you. Why send yourself to an early grave? Why endanger the lives of non smokers? You don't have that right.

My right to remain healthy far outweighs your right to pollute your body, but it appears that smokers have more rights than I.

Blah blah blah...You do have a right to remain healthy, but people also have a right to smoke if they choose to. And you are not go to change it. You don't want to smell smoke? Stay away from smokers. It's not that hard since it's illegal to smoke just about everywhere.

Smokers preach about "You're taking away our rights to choose to smoke", well smokers are taking away the rights of the non-smokers who choose not to breathe it in, by smoking inconsiderately.

Furthermore, seeing as you CHOSE to become a smoker and you so willingly throw money away on cigarettes, you should suffer for your choice.

-AC

I hate cigarette smoke however I hate the thought of banning cigarettes and abortion and etc etc give an inch lose a mile don't ban smoking. The Govt needs to STFU and take a back seat.

I'm a militant non smoker yet I've never heard of someone smoking a cig then going out and slashing someone in the pub. Alcohol is probably more dangerous to the health of an innocent bystander than tobacco.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Smokers preach about "You're taking away our rights to choose to smoke", well smokers are taking away the rights of the non-smokers who choose not to breathe it in, by smoking inconsiderately.

Furthermore, seeing as you CHOSE to become a smoker and you so willingly throw money away on cigarettes, you should suffer for your choice.

-AC

I actually share the exact same opinion on this as you, AC. 😉

Originally posted by Zebina
Blah blah blah...You do have a right to remain healthy, but people also have a right to smoke if they choose to. And you are not go to change it. You don't want to smell smoke? Stay away from smokers. It's not that hard since it's illegal to smoke just about everywhere.

Right, so we should all lock ourselves inside so we don't smell the smoke, huh? And if someone gets cancer from passive smoking it is their own fault, right?

My right to stay healthy far outweighs your right to pollute your body and the bodies of others.

Originally posted by Makedde

My right to stay healthy far outweighs your right to pollute your body and the bodies of others.

Well, it doesn't outweigh their right to pollute their own body. It does outweigh the second though.

I went out for tea the other night. I sat in the non smoking area. The smoke from the smoking area drifted over to my area and I went home smelling like an ashtray. I may just have sat in the smokers area because a non smoking area makes no difference at all.

Originally posted by Makedde
I went out for tea the other night. I sat in the non smoking area. The smoke from the smoking area drifted over to my area and I went home smelling like an ashtray. I may just have sat in the smokers area because a non smoking area makes no difference at all.

Exactly. Allow smoking or don't. I'm a smoker that has never asked for special concesions! If a place of buisness allows smoking, and you object due to health or socail issues, then don't f-ing go there! But, when smoking is allowed, then stop your bitching. Place yourself in "harms way" for the right reasons. I kow smoking will kill me. But, that doesn't change the reality that I smoke. Nor should it for you...or other non-smokers.

I have to agree with that, if an establishment allows smoking and you don't want to end up smelling like an ashtray, go somewhere else. Smokers are gonna have nowhere to smoke soon enough, quit whining about it now. Non smokers got their own way.

I still agree with Makedde's statements, I just can't support non smokers when they say 'I hate eating in restaurants that allow smoking, because it makes me stink/it's killing me' and then they still use said restaurant.

i think theyre should be health ciggarets that dont make u ill lol... that not possible i no cause of d smoke n stuff...lol.... like over 1/2 my skool smoke (11-16 year old) wich is illegal so making it completely illegal probly wouldnt help.

Perhaps removing the addictive part of the cigarette? Unless it's completely psychological, which some people seem to believe.

Well the nicotine is addicting and I've heard that the cigarette companies have increased the affects of the addicting substance...not sure though.......Also, it takes about 3 days for physical symptoms to end, but the rest is psychological.

Originally posted by Syren
Perhaps removing the addictive part of the cigarette? Unless it's completely psychological, which some people seem to believe.

Tobacco and alcohol kill more people than crack, cocaine, and heroin COMBINED each year but they're still legal. It's those other drugs we're not supposed to touch........those UNTAXED drugs. As a smoker and a drinker, I don't want to see them outlawed not only cuz I'd be really cranky 😛, but try and remember what happened with the Prohibition Era.......all that organized crime, and violence and killing, yet the crooks were simply giving the public what they wanted......a drink. Let people smoke, I say.

I mean no offense to any smokers by saying this but I think that smoking should be outlawed. Not only is it responsible for 500,000 deaths a year, but it costs the government budget 50 billion annually for treatment- that is taxpayer money not going to a good cause. True, making smoking illegal is a radical step and it would seem unconstitutional to some to take away that right, but it has to be done sooner or later so it might as well be now. For the first ten, twenty, maybe fifty years after enacted, it will cause lots of anger and marches and underground sellings but eventually it will die down and smoking will be no more- eliminating one less thing for us all to worry about. Thats my reasoning.

I'm not a smoker, but, most of my family is. My sister brought up a very good point. You see, we live in Jersey, so they changed the age of buying cigarettes to 19, she's ticked, because she just turned 18 and bought only...4 packs of cigarettes? She thinks that the government has no right to decide the way we die. So let them smoke. That's what the smoking sections in restauraunts are for, and if you get sat in them, don't complain.
Also, it's not the tobacco industry's INTENTIONS to kill people. The people who buy the product obviously know what it is doing to them. It's all about self control. No means to offend, but, I think it is rather drastic and somewhat stupid to make smoking illegal, people are still going to do it, no matter what you say. 😮‍💨
no, i don't smoke, and i don't want my family to smoke, but they know that they're smoking and they know it inscreases the chances of lung cancer and other diseases, it's all in the choice of the people who DO smoke.

Its also the choice of people to use drugs, and drive without a license, and carry weapons around with them. True, people do have that choice, but in the long run it is better to eliminate the choice altogether. Sure its not going to be popular but it would save a lot of lives money, and make America a model for the rest of civilized society. Also, 4000 deaths a year (yes, more than 9/11 or the Iraq war) are caused from secondhand smoke- tell me you know what this is. Even if it was just one innocent victim a year it would still be right to eliminate it for that one person. Because although that 4000 isnt a whole lot in the whole scheme of things, every person counts and every one is protected by the constituion to the right of life, liberty and etc... So those people are dying because of other peoples bad choices- much like drunk driving. Thats another reason why it should be illegal.