Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Let me hit you with some knowledge. 50 Cent is not a gangster/gangsta, ok? He is a multi-million dollar earning "music" superstar living in mansions and committing the occasional safe-violence publicity stunt.He is not a gangster in any way, shape or form.
-AC
50 has been thru some s***, though. Like he used to sling crack, he still probably always carries a burner, he's loyal family member. Moms got killed in a drug deal. Not saying that should qualify him as official, just saying that he's the type that'll do what he has to do no matter what. Gangsta. Like he just doesn't give a f***. G-Unit too. I remember watching a Loyd Banks interview with him saying "My styles like just on some raw, raunchy s***. Like nigga get away from me, type of s***." Now that's gansta.
As for the thread, I don't hate 50 personally. I think he's intelligent, astute and very articulate to my surprise. Sure he may sound funny but he makes perfect sense when he speaks. Logically speaking, he's actually a better speaker than he is a better rapper, imho. I just don't like his style of flow lyrically. Like a pop gangsta. See, Tupac was a G. 50 is a G but he's now a studio G, I guess, lol which is wack but im sure if it came down to it, he'd hold his own.
Like im sure there are singers that pak heat too. Just because they have a sweet side when it comes to doing an R&B jam doesn't mean the won't slit your throat if you cross 'em, lol. My ex girl's brother was a singer and he sold crack. Does it make him a G? I dunno i don't think so or maybe it does. Or not. I know you need some big balls (nuts) to sell crack though, ill tell you that.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
50 has been thru some s***, though. Like he used to sling crack, he still probably always carries a burner, he's loyal family member. Moms got killed in a drug deal. Not saying that should qualify him as official, just saying that he's the type that'll do what he has to do no matter what. Gangsta. Like he just doesn't give a f***. G-Unit too. I remember watching a Loyd Banks interview with him saying "My styles like just on some raw, raunchy s***. Like nigga get away from me, type of s***." Now that's gansta.
Probably always carries a burner? Is that another assumption based of what he tells you? He obviously wants you to believe that, it's what sells his albums. Crack? So what? I know crack dealers, they're everywhere here.
How does a family member dying make him a gangster? I never said he hasn't "been thru some sh*t", I said he's not a gangster.
It amazes me how someone like you can go and make comments on actual, genuine hip hop music only to be so blindly sucked into the fabrication and marketing that is 50 Cent. He doesn't give a ****? Of course he does. He wants to be out there making "music", selling CDs and making money. He doesn't want to be in prison. You refer to his interviews like they are 100% honest. The man is on MTV being watched by millions of kids who he NEEDS, he's gonna tell them what they wanna hear.
He's no gangster, he's a half singing pop hop TRL star who does Justin Timberlake remixes. Moreover, this shouldn't have a place in music.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
As for the thread, I don't hate 50 personally. I think he's intelligent, astute and very articulate to my surprise. Sure he may sound funny but he makes perfect sense when he speaks. Logically speaking, he's actually a better speaker than he is a better rapper, imho. I just don't like his style of flow lyrically. Like a pop gangsta. See, Tupac was a G. 50 is a G but he's now a studio G, I guess, lol which is wack but im sure if it came down to it, he'd hold his own.
50 Cent, intelligent? I'm curious as to why you believe this.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Like im sure there are singers that pak heat too. Just because they have a sweet side when it comes to doing an R&B jam doesn't mean the won't slit your throat if you cross 'em, lol. My ex girl's brother was a singer and he sold crack. Does it make him a G? I dunno i don't think so or maybe it does. Or not. I know you need some big balls (nuts) to sell crack though, ill tell you that.
You need balls...to sell crack?
When...the f*ck...did being a criminal become some kind of admirable quality? What the hell is going on?
-AC
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
50 has been thru some s***, though. Like he used to sling crack, he still probably always carries a burner, he's loyal family member. Moms got killed in a drug deal. Not saying that should qualify him as official, just saying that he's the type that'll do what he has to do no matter what. Gangsta. Like he just doesn't give a f***. G-Unit too. I remember watching a Loyd Banks interview with him saying "My styles like just on some raw, raunchy s***. Like nigga get away from me, type of s***." Now that's gansta.As for the thread, I don't hate 50 personally. I think he's intelligent, astute and very articulate to my surprise. Sure he may sound funny but he makes perfect sense when he speaks. Logically speaking, he's actually a better speaker than he is a better rapper, imho. I just don't like his style of flow lyrically. Like a pop gangsta. See, Tupac was a G. 50 is a G but he's now a studio G, I guess, lol which is wack but im sure if it came down to it, he'd hold his own.
Like im sure there are singers that pak heat too. Just because they have a sweet side when it comes to doing an R&B jam doesn't mean the won't slit your throat if you cross 'em, lol. My ex girl's brother was a singer and he sold crack. Does it make him a G? I dunno i don't think so or maybe it does. Or not. I know you need some big balls (nuts) to sell crack though, ill tell you that.
no point discussing with this herb B...
apparently if you aint getting that mikee corleone money or livin that tony montana life you cant be considered a gangsta..,
i aint condoning violence or drug sales, im just letting you know what dude is before the fame. and yes this is relevant cause we discussing more than the dude's music but his overall persona
smh
EDIT: 50 definitely got tecs in his presence all the time. this dude rolls with with 10+ bodyguards, lol.
hes a pussy, but he a smart pussy.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Probably always carries a burner? Is that another assumption based of what he tells you? He obviously wants you to believe that, it's what sells his albums. Crack? So what? I know crack dealers, they're everywhere here.How does a family member dying make him a gangster? I never said he hasn't "been thru some sh*t", I said he's not a gangster.
It amazes me how someone like you can go and make comments on actual, genuine hip hop music only to be so blindly sucked into the fabrication and marketing that is 50 Cent. He doesn't give a ****? Of course he does. He wants to be out there making "music", selling CDs and making money. He doesn't want to be in prison. You refer to his interviews like they are 100% honest. The man is on MTV being watched by millions of kids who he NEEDS, he's gonna tell them what they wanna hear.
He's no gangster, he's a half singing pop hop TRL star who does Justin Timberlake remixes. Moreover, this shouldn't have a place in music.
50 Cent, intelligent? I'm curious as to why you believe this.
You need balls...to sell crack?
When...the f*ck...did being a criminal become some kind of admirable quality? What the hell is going on?-AC
First of all, note how I said that he "probably" carries one on him. I didn't say he actually does.
And when I said you need balls to sell crack i meant you need to not go into the crack game all scared if you're gonna survive. You can't be no suka or stupid when selling crack so you're 100% wrong "if" you think just anyone can do it. You gotta be ready and down for anything and alot of heads aren't courageous enough to hold it down like that especially when the shit really hits the fan, you know when things go down.
And his moms dying may have strengthen his "don't giva f***" feeling even more leading him to become just more ruthless, that's what I meant.
He doesn't give a f****. You think he cares about what he says as far as offending anyone, other rappers chicks, no. You think he cares what anyone of us thinks in here of him, no. You think he gives a f*** about Murder INC, no. and other rap heads, no. Sure he looks out for his own but as far as anything else, he doesn't give a **** about things but his own business. That's gangsta to me. Him throwing that big-ass party at him crib is gangsta. His rides, gangsta. House gangsta, the chicks he's around gangsta, his attitude, gangsta, his past (from what I heard) gangsta. but yet he's not gangsta.? I think you take it in the literal sense.
Yo..f*** that. 50 is gansta. I don't like his flow but to me he's gansta. It's his style whether I like his flow or not. 50 will be 50 on and off stage.
And being a criminal isn't an admirable trait to me at all. In '05 the murder rate was the highest in 10 years where I live, I was disgusted. I remember not saying anything to anyone on the last day of the year from being pissed at the numbers and while watching the Boston Globe posting all of the victims faces. Especially to know that more that 80% of victims were young brothers.
Look, until we really know about 50's personal life, AC, then how can any of us on this thread really say he's gangsta or not? Relatively, I just go by what I know.
You don't think the he that mentality anymore? Like someone earlier in this thread said in reference to the popular and true quote, "you could take a nigga out the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto outta a nigga", he still has that mentality.
S***. I sure as hell won't change over money. I'll be a millionaire still buying 99cent (Wise) onion and garlic chips at the corner store on my block.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And when I said you need balls to sell crack i meant you need to not go into the crack game all scared if you're gonna survive. You can't be no suka or stupid when selling crack so you're 100% wrong "if" you think just anyone can do it. You gotta be ready and down for anything and alot of heads aren't courageous enough to hold it down like that especially when the shit really hits the fan, you know when things go down.
Anyone can sell crack, but to be drastically involved in the crack dealing world you obviously have to be prepared for extreme situations. End of story there.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And his moms dying may have strengthen his "don't giva f***" feeling even more leading him to become just more ruthless, that's what I meant.
How funny, "ruthless". As if the man is a raging beast. That has nothing to do with anything, Fist.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
He doesn't give a f****. You think he cares about what he says as far as offending anyone, other rappers chicks, no. You think he cares what anyone of us thinks in here of him, no. You think he gives a f*** about Murder INC, no. and other rap heads, no. Sure he looks out for his own but as far as anything else, he doesn't give a **** about things but his own business. That's gangsta to me. Him throwing that big-ass party at him crib is gangsta. His rides, gangsta. House gangsta, the chicks he's around gangsta, his attitude, gangsta, his past (from what I heard) gangsta. but yet he's not gangsta.? I think you take it in the literal sense.
Not giving a f*ck about those things doesn't mean you don't care how you present yourself. He does care about how he presents himself because as Afro so correctly pointed out, he has a lot to lose. If he lost his fanbase that loves him because of how he puts himself across on TV, he'd be FINISHED. He hasn't got the talent to succeed without blindly spellbinding the masses into liking him.
You kids and your damn pipedreams. The things you list that make him "gangsta" are pathetic. He's rich, if that now means "gangsta" haha. You keep saying "From what I heard", from where? 50 and his cronies? The rumour mills? His MTV interviews? Yes, real credible sources.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Yo..f*** that. 50 is gansta. I don't like his flow but to me he's gansta. It's his style whether I like his flow or not. 50 will be 50 on and off stage.
Yeah, a lisping talentless idiot who can't do anything besides go on TRL and plug his albums to fangirls and boys who are still impressed with things that shine and sparkle.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And being a criminal isn't an admirable trait to me at all. In '05 the murder rate was the highest in 10 years where I live, I was disgusted. I remember not saying anything to anyone on the last day of the year from being pissed at the numbers and while watching the Boston Globe posting all of the victims faces. Especially to know that more that 80% of victims were young brothers.Look, until we really know about 50's personal life, AC, then how can any of us on this thread really say he's gangsta or not? Relatively, I just go by what I know.
He's not a literal gangster, we've established that.
The aspect I find hilarious is how people are looking up to him and IMAGINING him with all these wonderful qualities based on "what they know" which is always the old "Shot nine times, mum died, sold crack" story. So? I know people like that, big deal. Saying you won't "change" over money is a lie, because given the things you've just cited as positive, you'd be into all that, which I can assume you aren't into now (unless you're a multi millionaire and I'm unaware).
Either way, this is all a bit redundant seeing as none of it pertains to the music.
-AC
I neither hate or love 50 cent. Quite frankly, the only way I can see someone hating the guy is if he had done something personal to you or someone you know. And vice versa if you love him.
I didn't know much about the guy 3 years ago. Little by little I been hearing and learning more about him and his career. I see him as an entertainer. I don't think he's a gangster....but he could have affiliations with real gangsters. That you can't say is not possible.
For me Hip-hop or rap or whatever is call nowadays is all the same. I don't really care if the guy is consider mainstream or underground it all sounds the same to me. Same repetitiveness and same beat. If I'm wrong...heck! I'm wrong...who really cares? Music has different meanings to all of us.
Back to 50 cent...the guy has defenetly made his money. Has he been susccesful? I would say so, yes. Has he been suscesful in his music...look above I don't follow his music to be able to establish a formal critique. But I'll will say...that much like any other recording artist out there...he has fans and his haters. As long as both sides continue to talk about him...the more famous he becomes.