Originally posted by spidergrl
Please let me know if this is somehow FAIR?A girl, for the whole of last year (2005) got bullied by alot of people in my school, no real/main reason why, a teenage thing, where its kewl somehow by making other people feel like utter sh!t.
So anyway, the holidays came, and school just started back, and she doesn't return. Why, because a few weeks before school, she kills herself (hung herself).
How do people have the right to take other peoples lives? To push them so far to the edge and then over?
😠
Originally posted by spidergrl
Please let me know if this is somehow FAIR?A girl, for the whole of last year (2005) got bullied by alot of people in my school, no real/main reason why, a teenage thing, where its kewl somehow by making other people feel like utter sh!t.
So anyway, the holidays came, and school just started back, and she doesn't return. Why, because a few weeks before school, she kills herself (hung herself).
How do people have the right to take other peoples lives? To push them so far to the edge and then over?
😠
What a stupid girl....should have killed herself a day before school...so she would have had more of her vacation.
Originally posted by ILoveMyDaniel
Because people are stupid. Some people think the things that they say/do won't have that big of an effect on people and sometimes it really does. This girl, if she had any friends, obviously chose not to tell them and ask them for defense because we all know how that ends up.."Oh what..now your friends are sticking up for you?", or her parents because "Oh go run to Mommy and Daddy now, huh?" When I was in 6th grade I was being picked on because of the way I looked physically and what did I do? I tattled to my parents and got it taken care of. Nowadays I have many friends and we always stick together in things like this so they'd always defend me if the oppurtune time ever came up.
But anyways, I don't get picked on anymore and that kind of thing stops at highschool mostly. I really don't think any of it's fair though, at any age/race/home-life/etc.
Originally posted by spidergrl
I agree, some people just shut up and let other people take it, they don't want to get involved or they don't want to get the same treatment. Well wheres the friendship in that relationship, being a friend is being there for the person, protecting them and helping them through tough times. Obviously her friends were doing Jack All!
Some emo kid in my high school killed himself last year.
All the emos pretty much did what they always do, mope around and feel sorry for themselves, except this time they did it..with a passion 😛
Ironicly the kid had dropped out of high school and basicly ruined his life with drugs and what not, so its not hard to imagine he took the cowards way out 😬
How exactly can you call it a coward way out when it was obvious that the person wasn't thinking about any of that crap, obviously as because you said that they were on drugs and everything. That sh!t can stuff you up so much its not even funny, no wonder they even had the brains to hold a gun or a rope in their hands and say goodbye.
Im sick of people saying they're idiots, THEY KILLED THEMSELVES. They are no longer alive, they no longer exist ... they mean hardly anything to anyone anymore, and all you guys do is sit there and think they're idiots, they might be, but atleast they tried all they could to be happy, and so that didn't work. I wouldn't be surprised if most of you didn't know what it was like to wake up in the mornings and want to die. To start the day even lower then death, and have nothing or no one to pick up that mood during the day. You rely on yourself and only yourself to make it through the day, when you don't want to. Your fighting against yourself to stay alive, to stay carm and to make sense of why this is happening to you. For all the people out there who think its a 'choice' and people who do kill themselves, deserve everything they get, well from me here ... who knows what its like ... SHOVE IT UP YOUR A$$!!!!
Originally posted by spidergrl
How exactly can you call it a coward way out when it was obvious that the person wasn't thinking about any of that crap, obviously as because you said that they were on drugs and everything. That sh!t can stuff you up so much its not even funny, no wonder they even had the brains to hold a gun or a rope in their hands and say goodbye.Im sick of people saying they're idiots, THEY KILLED THEMSELVES. They are no longer alive, they no longer exist ... they mean hardly anything to anyone anymore, and all you guys do is sit there and think they're idiots, they might be, but atleast they tried all they could to be happy, and so that didn't work. I wouldn't be surprised if most of you didn't know what it was like to wake up in the mornings and want to die. To start the day even lower then death, and have nothing or no one to pick up that mood during the day. You rely on yourself and only yourself to make it through the day, when you don't want to. Your fighting against yourself to stay alive, to stay carm and to make sense of why this is happening to you. For all the people out there who think its a 'choice' and people who do kill themselves, deserve everything they get, well from me here ... who knows what its like ... SHOVE IT UP YOUR A$$!!!!
Originally posted by Eis
Well how do you know they tried everything?
And why the hell should we not call the idiots? Because they're dead it means they are worthy of our respect? I think you're overreacting. If some members here think they're stupid for killing themselves they have the right to say it, they might be wrong but that's a different issue.
Suicide isn't something that you just snap your fingers one day and go do. You don't have the best day of your life, an ok day, or a crap day and then go kill yourself. Everyone I have known, people that know people who have killed themselves, tried everything they could, but they felt/feel hopeless. Don't go on like you know what your talking about ... but its obvious as hell that you've never been no where near what some people have, and turn around and say you have, because then you'll just be bullsh!tting me. No on is worthy of your respect, because your so bloody cool 🙄 Im not saying respect the dead, but let them FINALLY ... RIP!! They made the choice to end their lives, with factors and medical factors against them to lean them towards that. I think you just need to get a life and relise that people SUFFER out there, they don't have to be in 3rd world countries to know what pain, heart ache and stress/depression/suicide is! Yea, everyone here has a say in what ever they think, your right it might be wrong ... but people like you that come in here, acting like they know what they're talkikng about and what they're on about, will p!ss me off for the rest of my life ... because NO you don't know what its like!
Originally posted by spidergrl
How do people have the right to take other peoples lives? To push them so far to the edge and then over?
😠
Being bullied in school ruins people. It follows them for years and years. Right now, here in DK, there's a campaign going on to prevent and stop bullying in schools.
You should ask, how do people have the right to bully others and push them so far to the edge that they decide to kill themselves?? No one has that right. Where were the parents of the girl who killed herself? And what kind of homes do the bullies come from? Bullying others in school is a sign of insecurity and cowardice.
I'm sad to hear this girl reached a point were she felt there was no other way out of her pain.
The bullies who caused her so much suffering will have to live with the fact, that they were partly respsonsible for what she did.
Also, spidergrl, you'll unfortunately have to deal with childish replies here. People do not like to be reminded that what they DO and SAY to other people can have an effect on those people, and that we must take responsibility for our actions.
A good friend of mine attempted suicide last year - I knew she was feeling bad, I knew she was depressed, I just had NO idea she would try to end her own life. She's a very courageous person actually, bright and caring - but the pain she felt was just so LOUD, she wanted to make it stop.
Of course it is not STUPID to kill oneself. It is sad that people can end up in such a state that they feel they have NO other way out of their problems.
Did you know the girl? How do YOU feel about it? Do you have someone to talk to about it in real life?
Originally posted by The Omega
Being bullied in school ruins people. It follows them for years and years. Right now, here in DK, there's a campaign going on to prevent and stop bullying in schools.You should ask, how do people have the right to bully others and push them so far to the edge that they decide to kill themselves?? No one has that right. Where were the parents of the girl who killed herself? And what kind of homes do the bullies come from? Bullying others in school is a sign of insecurity and cowardice.
I'm sad to hear this girl reached a point were she felt there was no other way out of her pain.
The bullies who caused her so much suffering will have to live with the fact, that they were partly respsonsible for what she did.Also, spidergrl, you'll unfortunately have to deal with childish replies here. People do not like to be reminded that what they DO and SAY to other people can have an effect on those people, and that we must take responsibility for our actions.
A good friend of mine attempted suicide last year - I knew she was feeling bad, I knew she was depressed, I just had NO idea she would try to end her own life. She's a very courageous person actually, bright and caring - but the pain she felt was just so LOUD, she wanted to make it stop.Of course it is not STUPID to kill oneself. It is sad that people can end up in such a state that they feel they have NO other way out of their problems.
Did you know the girl? How do YOU feel about it? Do you have someone to talk to about it in real life?
Finally ... someone who isn't a complete idiot to this subject replyd in this thread. I don't think about it much, I hate the pain that this girl went through, because i've been through the same. Sexually harassed for a year by about 10 guys, and then sexually abused. It hurts to wake up in the morning. I was put on anti-depressents about a year and a bit ago, and im still on them, and i wake up each morning finding it as hard as the last one. Yea, I've tried to kill myself, more then once, so I know what Im talking about. So im not just sitting here blabing on and on. I KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE. and it sucks. Not a day goes by that I don't remember what happens. But you know what, all the people that have hurt me in my life, everyon that has harmed me in some way ... I don't wish depression/or the thoughts of suicide onto them ... because its not worth any of these people, it is the most horride thing I have experienced in my life ... to want to end your life ... and not knowing how to make the thoughts/actions and everything else just stop ... without ending your life!
Originally posted by spidergrl
Finally ... someone who isn't a complete idiot to this subject replyd in this thread. I don't think about it much, I hate the pain that this girl went through, because i've been through the same. Sexually harassed for a year by about 10 guys, and then sexually abused. It hurts to wake up in the morning.
I understand that the suicide of this girl must be tough on you, spidergrl. Do you have people to talk to about it. And talk to about what happened to you?
Originally posted by spidergrl
I was put on anti-depressents about a year and a bit ago, and im still on them, and i wake up each morning finding it as hard as the last one. Yea, I've tried to kill myself, more then once, so I know what Im talking about. So im not just sitting here blabing on and on. I KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE. and it sucks. Not a day goes by that I don't remember what happens. But you know what, all the people that have hurt me in my life, everyon that has harmed me in some way ... I don't wish depression/or the thoughts of suicide onto them ... because its not worth any of these people, it is the most horride thing I have experienced in my life ... to want to end your life ... and not knowing how to make the thoughts/actions and everything else just stop ... without ending your life!
Yes, my friend was and IS still on anti-depressants as well. A depression is a hard thing to live with. I would recommend therapy, spidergrl. There is NOTHING weak about admitting that sometimes we've been scarred in a way that we cannot deal with ourselves. Waking up hurting is usually a sign that there are things you need to confront and deal with... the sooner the better... and with the expert guidance of a professional. The longer you wait, the longer it will take.
It is OKAY to be angry with the people who hurt you. It is PERFECTLY okay to wish them the worst. The man who abused my friend and caused her to almost kill herself - I hate him. Simple as that. I wish him the VERY worst in life. That does not mean I'll go kick him in the face or anything... Eventually I will forget him, but not before my friend has forgotten him.
And remember one thing spidergrl - the things that do not kill us makes us stronger. Sometimes we just need some help to find the new strength.