Teenage Suicide

If some "*******" decides to start conflict, and to continuosly harasses a person for no particular reason, just because he is looking for shit, that person must be stopped, if it means beating the shit out of him.
If he is sexualy harassing you, report that person/people to the police.

If you just let them beat you down and you dont do anything about it, then you are letting them win.

Just know in your heart that you are a better person than them. I perosnally have no respect for a person who starts conflict for no reason .

There are certain levels of abuse. Some emotional abuse is acceptable, it are just a part of growing up and learning lessons in life, but some abuse goes beyond what a human being can handle.

I think there is a big line between a "emo" and a person that is truly abused.

We all need to define where that line is, because some abuse is not acceptable.

Originally posted by spidergrl
Suicide isn't something that you just snap your fingers one day and go do. You don't have the best day of your life, an ok day, or a crap day and then go kill yourself. Everyone I have known, people that know people who have killed themselves, tried everything they could, but they felt/feel hopeless. Don't go on like you know what your talking about ... but its obvious as hell that you've never been no where near what some people have, and turn around and say you have, because then you'll just be bullsh!tting me. No on is worthy of your respect, because your so bloody cool 🙄 Im not saying respect the dead, but let them FINALLY ... RIP!! They made the choice to end their lives, with factors and medical factors against them to lean them towards that. I think you just need to get a life and relise that people SUFFER out there, they don't have to be in 3rd world countries to know what pain, heart ache and stress/depression/suicide is! Yea, everyone here has a say in what ever they think, your right it might be wrong ... but people like you that come in here, acting like they know what they're talkikng about and what they're on about, will p!ss me off for the rest of my life ... because NO you don't know what its like!

Oh, and "Just let them RIP" I didn't realize by calling them idiots we are disturbing their after-life peace, grow up.

Having said that, suicide might actually be the right option for you.

Originally posted by Eis
Look, I'm sorry to burst your pathetic little bubble but not being popular, being dumped by your boyfriend or parents divorcing isn't the end of your life.
You probably do believe that you dont need to be in a third world country to know what pain is but I bet you've never really seen the actual conditions poor people in poor countries live in. And no the discovery channel doesn't count.
Now I know, for someone like you being dumped/not being popular/parents divorcing is something indeed very bad but it's only because you don't know better. You and those people that killed themselves (the specific type we are discussing) just need to take a good look around and realize how good you've got it.

Oh, and "Just let them RIP" I didn't realize by calling them idiots we are disturbing their after-life peace, grow up.

Having said that, suicide might actually be the right option for you.

OMG, who died and made you think you could run the world. Yes i know what a third world country is, im in vietnam right now, kids sleeping and begging on the streets, i cry everytime i walk outside, so shut the hell up about that would you. And no, its not because my boyfriend dumped me or another reason you think im pathetic enough to do ... i don't even know the full reason to do with my depression. all i know, is some guy had me up against the wall, touching me and doing things that i didn't want to do. So don't talk to me about doing the hard stuff, because i know what the hard stuff is! SO YOU GROW UP!

Originally posted by spidergrl
How exactly can you call it a coward way out when it was obvious that the person wasn't thinking about any of that crap, obviously as because you said that they were on drugs and everything. That sh!t can stuff you up so much its not even funny, no wonder they even had the brains to hold a gun or a rope in their hands and say goodbye.

Im sick of people saying they're idiots, THEY KILLED THEMSELVES. They are no longer alive, they no longer exist ... they mean hardly anything to anyone anymore, and all you guys do is sit there and think they're idiots, they might be, but atleast they tried all they could to be happy, and so that didn't work. I wouldn't be surprised if most of you didn't know what it was like to wake up in the mornings and want to die. To start the day even lower then death, and have nothing or no one to pick up that mood during the day. You rely on yourself and only yourself to make it through the day, when you don't want to. Your fighting against yourself to stay alive, to stay carm and to make sense of why this is happening to you. For all the people out there who think its a 'choice' and people who do kill themselves, deserve everything they get, well from me here ... who knows what its like ... SHOVE IT UP YOUR A$$!!!!

Originally posted by spidergrl
Finally ... someone who isn't a complete idiot to this subject replyd in this thread. I don't think about it much, I hate the pain that this girl went through, because i've been through the same. Sexually harassed for a year by about 10 guys, and then sexually abused. It hurts to wake up in the morning. I was put on anti-depressents about a year and a bit ago, and im still on them, and i wake up each morning finding it as hard as the last one. Yea, I've tried to kill myself, more then once, so I know what Im talking about. So im not just sitting here blabing on and on. I KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE. and it sucks. Not a day goes by that I don't remember what happens. But you know what, all the people that have hurt me in my life, everyon that has harmed me in some way ... I don't wish depression/or the thoughts of suicide onto them ... because its not worth any of these people, it is the most horride thing I have experienced in my life ... to want to end your life ... and not knowing how to make the thoughts/actions and everything else just stop ... without ending your life!

Originally posted by spidergrl
OMG, who died and made you think you could run the world. Yes i know what a third world country is, im in vietnam right now, kids sleeping and begging on the streets, i cry everytime i walk outside, so shut the hell up about that would you. And no, its not because my boyfriend dumped me or another reason you think im pathetic enough to do ... i don't even know the full reason to do with my depression. all i know, is some guy had me up against the wall, touching me and doing things that i didn't want to do. So don't talk to me about doing the hard stuff, because i know what the hard stuff is! SO YOU GROW UP!

Originally posted by ILoveMyDaniel
Don't pay any attention to him, he thinks depression is an option for people like us. 🙄

Yea, well ignorant idiots like that make me want to try and make them understand what its like, because untill you fully know, you know nothing about the situation and you dont have a right to tell me how/should/do feel about life ... or anything really.

Originally posted by spidergrl
Yea, well ignorant idiots like that make me want to try and make them understand what its like, because untill you fully know, you know nothing about the situation and you dont have a right to tell me how/should/do feel about life ... or anything really.

Are you saying Eis thinks that people choose to be depressed?

Originally posted by spidergrl
Yea, well ignorant idiots like that make me want to try and make them understand what its like, because untill you fully know, you know nothing about the situation and you dont have a right to tell me how/should/do feel about life ... or anything really.

Originally posted by ILoveMyDaniel
I'm on anti-depressants as well. Well, it's actually an anxiety medication but I read over the internet that it can be used for depression and bipolar disorder as well.

Haha, so because it CAN be used for depression, you believe you are depressed? You already said you take it for anxiety.

Depression is serious, it's not just feeling really upset. It's not something you can choose to have just because the medication you take happens to be for depression also.

Like you said:

Originally posted by ILoveMyDaniel
he thinks depression is an option for people like us. 🙄

Apparantly you believe depression is an option also.

-AC

Originally posted by spidergrl
Please let me know if this is somehow FAIR?

A girl, for the whole of last year (2005) got bullied by alot of people in my school, no real/main reason why, a teenage thing, where its kewl somehow by making other people feel like utter sh!t.
So anyway, the holidays came, and school just started back, and she doesn't return. Why, because a few weeks before school, she kills herself (hung herself).
How do people have the right to take other peoples lives? To push them so far to the edge and then over?
😠

i don't believe you can blame the bullies... they were f*cks, but so are lots of people...

you can blame the person who killed themselves, but imo thats just an insult to their memory...

i had a friend who killed herself, bout 8 years ago... i never blamed her... she's human, and humans have faults... hers were too much for her, things that may seem trivial to some are important to others... i don't believe she was selfish, because i truly believe that all she wanted was to be happy... and wherever she is i'm sure she is...

Originally posted by spidergrl
And my respect for you that I had ... *gone*

Oh Noes.....what can I do to get it back. Note the lack of a question mark.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Are you saying Eis thinks that people choose to be depressed?

Did you see me type

"I think people choose to be depressed" ? No, I don't believe I did, so therefore, I didn't say it! 🙄

I suffer from depression myself, I've been diagnosed with it by professional doctors all around the country. And i wish 'this' on NO ONE!! so no ... its not choosen. But I admit there is a fine line between depression and just feeling down and feeling sorry for yourself!

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh Noes.....what can I do to get it back. Note the lack of a question mark.

Aww, and do you see me giving a lack of SHIT of what you think/say! Yup ... there it is!

Originally posted by spidergrl
Did you see me type

"I think people choose to be depressed" ? No, I don't believe I did, so therefore, I didn't say it! 🙄

I suffer from depression myself, I've been diagnosed with it by professional doctors all around the country. And i wish 'this' on NO ONE!! so no ... its not choosen. But I admit there is a fine line between depression and just feeling down and feeling sorry for yourself!

He was asking if you (that's you...spidergrl) think that Eis (Eis, that is the guy you were talking to) thinks that people choose to be depressed.

Did I also say then

"I think you think people choose to be depression" ? Nope, didn't do that either, and I personally don't care if they do think they do/or don't. Because ... I know the truth!

Originally posted by spidergrl
Did I also say then

"I think you think people choose to be depression" ? Nope, didn't do that either, and I personally don't care if they do think they do/or don't. Because ... I know the truth!

You think you know the truth. Although I do agree with you, the people actually depressed do not choose it. But there are also people that choose to pretend they are depressed and they give people that are actually depressed and need to be helped a bad reputation.

What's this talk about depression? Shouldn'rt we be talking about Suicide?

Originally posted by spidergrl
Did I also say then

"I think you think people choose to be depression" ? Nope, didn't do that either, and I personally don't care if they do think they do/or don't. Because ... I know the truth!

OMG, who died and made you think you could run the world. Yes i know what a third world country is, im in vietnam right now, kids sleeping and begging on the streets, i cry everytime i walk outside, so shut the hell up about that would you. And no, its not because my boyfriend dumped me or another reason you think im pathetic enough to do ... i don't even know the full reason to do with my depression. all i know, is some guy had me up against the wall, touching me and doing things that i didn't want to do. So don't talk to me about doing the hard stuff, because i know what the hard stuff is! SO YOU GROW UP!

As far as depression goes, it can be faked, but when its genuine, it is hell...

I myself have been diagnosed as being depressed (even though i dont personally believe therapy would do anything for me), and for as long as i can remember its been a part of my life i wish would just f*ck off n die...

and spidergrl, i know vietnam cant be the easiest environment (i used to date a vietnamese woman who grew up in the aftermath of the war, and some of the stories she told me were simply awful...), but trust me, no matter how bad things get, they can always get worse, so try to perk up and take pleasure in what small comforts you have...

Maybe she could have gotten help, or was she too timid?

Originally posted by Heaven's Sword
Maybe she could have gotten help, or was she too timid?

spidergrl?